Do you guys really use sunscreen everyday?

fitnessisametalstate wrote:

I use a moisturizer/spf 15 broad spectrum ... and grab my MyChelle spf 28. ...

I'm a guy, 25, btw, who's skin has declined, and in the process of making it pretty via needling/vita c/copper peptides/peels.

If i don't face moisturize, my face gets super dry anyways.

... also chemical peels are great and inexpensive. jessner/tca/vi/vita a/retinol are all great. tca is awesome with other chemicals as well, like jessner

Good Lord, son. Is this what has happened to the American male?

Maybe making America great again isn't about cutting taxes and stopping immigration. Maybe it's about refusing to sell skin care products to men, along with hair ties for your buns and pants that don't reach your ankles.

okinoko wrote:

Everywhere says you need to. Even on cloudy, rainy days. I just feel like most people I know don't actually do it.

Not in the early mornings and evenings around dusk, but otherwise yes if outdoors. Skin cancer is no joke.

Unfortunately I must run weekdays from 11:30AM to 1:00PM. That's been my routine for probably about 25 years now. I always wear a hat and sunglasses and almost all days wear sunscreen on my face, neck, ears, arms and hands (I don't bother to put it on my legs, too lazy?). I try to hit the shade as much as possible but where I run is mostly exposed. I will also wear a long sleeved shirt on many of those days even if it's hot. I'd love to retire and be able to run in the mornings.

fixisin wrote:

OMG. You must be a blast to be around in your everyday life.

Not according to the people around me :(.

They know how to use google.

Yeah, and I forgot to cover cloudy days. Basically H2O is a weak absorber at the UV-A & B range. So even when clouds are shading pretty much the whole sky, you still have plenty of cancerous UV radiation going around. As the concern is never on the "visible" part of the radiation, you should put on sun screen/glasses on cloudy days.

okinoko wrote:

Everywhere says you need to. Even on cloudy, rainy days. I just feel like most people I know don't actually do it.

On my dick yes.

Bad Wigins wrote:

All you chickens so scared shitless of the life-giving sun will be fat and useless before age 35 because your T levels will spiral away to nothing just like Ryan Hall, due to not getting vitamin D the way nature intended, including seasonal variations. You all keep your skin in a state of perpetual winter and will lose first your muscle and then your bones. Then you will be all proud of your spotless fair skin as you sit helpless in a wheelchair with two broken hips.

If you are white, you need about 10min of sun exposure a day to get enough VitD.

All you "chemical free" folks who refuse sunscreen will be very eager to get shot up with the latest immunotherapies when you get aggressive melanoma, I predict.

It's easy to be anti-science until you are faced with death -- that tends to clear up all the BS.

I've never used sunscreen and my skin's just fine.

I haven't put it on since probably middle school. I also don't go lay out in the sun all day roasting myself.

This bs is exactly why I haven't been to an MD in over 20 years.

Here is a study of sunscreens and skin cancer published in The Lancet some time ago:

This stuff is virtually useless for public health issues.

Aviada Velx wrote:

fixisin wrote:

OMG. You must be a blast to be around in your everyday life.

Not according to the people around me :(.

They know how to use google.

Yeah, and I forgot to cover cloudy days. Basically H2O is a weak absorber at the UV-A & B range. So even when clouds are shading pretty much the whole sky, you still have plenty of cancerous UV radiation going around. As the concern is never on the "visible" part of the radiation, you should put on sun screen/glasses on cloudy days.

Should I dress like I'm handing radioactive materials?

I got cancer at 30 (not skin).

I am now 44 years old, I never wear sunscreen. The only time I ever did was in my youth when at a beach.

Aviada Velx wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

All you chickens so scared shitless of the life-giving sun will be fat and useless before age 35 because your T levels will spiral away to nothing just like Ryan Hall, due to not getting vitamin D the way nature intended, including seasonal variations. You all keep your skin in a state of perpetual winter and will lose first your muscle and then your bones. Then you will be all proud of your spotless fair skin as you sit helpless in a wheelchair with two broken hips.

^^^this is a display of ignorance.

(skin cancer this, skin cancer that)

You moronically and arrogantly completely miss the point, so I will try to state it more plainly: osteoporosis is WORSE than skin cancer.

If you are unlucky, you may get a melanoma and die from excess sun exposure. But from lack of sunlight, you WILL get weak muscles and thin bones. Once they start fracturing, the short countdown to the end of your life begins.

Places with little sunlight, such as Scandinavia, have the world's highest rates of osteoporosis, despite also having among the healthiest diets. Dietary vitamin D is no substitute, you need the sun.

No. It's not natural. Around the world people in sunny places didn't get sun cancer like they do here in the USA ever since sunscreen has been sold to the Americans to use.

One of my teammates years ago wore sunscreen and had to have 2 big holes cut out of his face on the cheeks. He never had skin cancer before using sunscreen and after the skin cancer stopped using it and has never had skin cancer since about 9 years.

Aren't we all in our basement? (Or our mom's?)

I'm doing just fine........ wrote:

I am a 51 year old male and I have never worn sunscreen in my life. I have also never wiped down a cart at the supermarket with an antibacterial towelette. I have never bought a bottle of water. I have never posted on twitter and I have never and I mean NEVER cut a hamburger in half before eating it.

but how many easy days do you take between workouts?

Ummm, you still don't get it!!

There's no amount of sunlight (or macho-ness) can fix the Scandinavians' (or anybody lives in high latitudes, e.g. Canada, Russia) osteoporosis, simply because ~half of the year the sun angle is too low (please see point 2) in my previous post). You get no vitamin-D but cancer inducing UV-A in that case.

You are absolutely right about you don't get vit-D from food NATURALLY, but the food with fortified vit-D .

Google is your friend.

And keywords you need: UV-A, UV-B, ozone, h2o, absorbing spectrum, skin cancer, vitamin-D, sub screen.

Sure, why not?

Do whatever you like. You got a brain, don't you?

Aviada, you are a nut job, move along please.

I apologize in advance. wrote:

Aviada, you are a nut job, move along please.

Okay.

But, before i leave, please be serious about this thing. Your testimony of being okay w/o sunscreen after sun bath weighs much less than a centenarian's about being a life long smoker and never having cancer. And I'm not even a sunscreen advocator.