Good news folks: Bmart IS entered in the 1500

If Gabe took down Brenda I would put my head through a wall.

Danger will Robinson wrote:

Let us hope Gabe's not running everyone over

4/7 angles show Martinez' left leg swing outwards as it comes forward and hit Rogers' planted right calf. Martinez stumbles in front of an accelerating Montaño causing her to fall. The initial contact was incidental, all runners kept to their line. It was just the backside mechanics of Martinez' left leg that caused the chain of events https://twitter.com/mountainpsg/status/750863552534110212

Inconclusive photo. She could have been clipped by either runner behind her.

Was in the protest room wrote:

4/7 angles show Martinez' left leg swing outwards as it comes forward and hit Rogers' planted right calf. Martinez stumbles in front of an accelerating Montaño causing her to fall. The initial contact was incidental, all runners kept to their line. It was just the backside mechanics of Martinez' left leg that caused the chain of events

https://twitter.com/mountainpsg/status/750863552534110212

This is good news to Brenda and her fans, but bad news to the other ladies who have to race her.

She is reckless, and now will be overly emotional. Mark my words, she will cause another fall.

USATF should have scratched her from the rest of the meet. Pretty classless what she pulled in the 800m

SlowTurtle wrote:

I don't want to get into the whether Caster is a he or she, but at least the 1500m seems to be more fair.

SlowTurtle wrote:

I don't want to get into the whether Caster is a he or she, but at least the 1500m seems to be more fair.

Crazy Montano won't be in there either.

Thanks Alysia; you haven't been sleeping well, have you?

Bad news everyone! wrote:

This is good news to Brenda and her fans, but bad news to the other ladies who have to race her.

She is reckless, and now will be overly emotional. Mark my words, she will cause another fall.

USATF should have scratched her from the rest of the meet. Pretty classless what she pulled in the 800m

Jeff Albertson wrote:

All I know is people will be giving her lots of room. She fell off the pace in the 800 and she should have pulled out wide instead of slowing down dramatically in the middle of a crowded pack.

The only time Martinez slowed down was when Montano stepped on her several times from behind and then pushed her to the track.

Poetic justice that Montano then fell on her face.

Montano is stupid wrote:

Jeff Albertson wrote:

All I know is people will be giving her lots of room. She fell off the pace in the 800 and she should have pulled out wide instead of slowing down dramatically in the middle of a crowded pack.

The only time Martinez slowed down was when Montano stepped on her several times from behind and then pushed her to the track.

Poetic justice that Montano then fell on her face.

Nope, wrong.

Montano is stupid wrote:

Jeff Albertson wrote:

All I know is people will be giving her lots of room. She fell off the pace in the 800 and she should have pulled out wide instead of slowing down dramatically in the middle of a crowded pack.

The only time Martinez slowed down was when Montano stepped on her several times from behind and then pushed her to the track.

Poetic justice that Montano then fell on her face.

If you are running faster than someone, then they cannot run into the back of you.

Montano had more in the tank. I don't believe she would have qualified, but there was NO CHANCE Brenda would have made it. She was going backwards.

Brenda was keying off of Ajee, waiting to pass her after the curve. Unfortunately, Ajee was slowing, and this resulted in her and Brenda compressing back into the pack. Alysia was surging, in part because she had a race plan to surge with 150 to go...which is the most awkward place to accelerate. Maybe she and her coach thought she could get the jump on everyone that way.

Jeff ALbertson wrote:

Montano is stupid wrote:

The only time Martinez slowed down was when Montano stepped on her several times from behind and then pushed her to the track.

Poetic justice that Montano then fell on her face.

If you are running faster than someone, then they cannot run into the back of you.

Montano had more in the tank. I don't believe she would have qualified, but there was NO CHANCE Brenda would have made it. She was going backwards.

Montano's average last 100m in races is 16.4 seconds, which is quite slow for an elite 800m runner. Martinez's average last 100m is 14.4 seconds, which is good or slightly better than average for sub-2 races. The women who finished top-3 at the USOT averaged just under 16 flat. Being that Montano hit the 600m slower than her average, perhaps she could have covered the last 100m a second faster than her average, but even if ran 15.4, that would put her fighting for 3rd. Martinez on the other was in place to do what she always does and there in nothing to suggest this race would have been any different. Martinez quite possibly could won that race and almost certainly would have at least made the team.

With all of the said, Wilson, Martinez and Montano are without a doubt in my mind our best 800m runners. If you ran an 800m race 10 times, those 3 athletes would be top-3 9 times out of 10, but to make the U.S. Olympic team, you need to be top-3 1 time out of 10. No disrespect to Grace and Williams, because they choose the perfect day to run PRs, but they also definitely are the benefactors of the best athletes having a bad day. This is not uncommon in the 800m, any athlete that makes a championship final has a shot.

Agreed. Nice stats.

Grace was boxed in and needed an opening to develop on the straight to move out and accelerate leaving very left of the race to make up ground. She had a chance, but a slim one for a top three finish. Williams was completely out of the race.

I would say the qualifiers were more benefactors of an unusual tangle impeding the leaders than the best athletes having a "bad day." That makes it sound like the leaders didn't perform well.

Can you time this last 100m? She said she was changing her tactic to kick at 150m like this race.

Weight coach wrote:

https://youtu.be/xBPYeyvzLfs

Can you time this last 100m? She said she was changing her tactic to kick at 150m like this race.

She went out a full 2 seconds faster in the first 400 of the Trials. She was not going to have a strong kick. I think it is unlikely she could have managed under 15 seconds given her early push.

Can you link to stats to back that up? I would have thought that most sub-2:00 races (and that is a pretty narrow range of almost all being 1:58.00 to 1:59.xx) have a fairly significant negative split. 14.4 seems like it would be quite a bit faster than average given that everyone is slowing down in the last 100m. Usually the fastest kick really amount to the runner who is slowing down the least, no?

[quote]TrackCoach wrote:

Montano's average last 100m in races is 16.4 seconds, which is quite slow for an elite 800m runner. Martinez's average last 100m is 14.4 seconds, which is good or slightly better than average for sub-2 races.