NAIA championships

This appears to be much more accurate than the predicted scores in the other thread. Any one of these teams could definately take the title.

Nice Job pre, cya in Johnson city

rusty

Apprecitate the impartial analysis. You don't see that often on this board.

1. V I

2. OBU

3. Lind

4. AP

Great analysis so far. Should be interesting to see where everyone stand's after this weekend's meets.

Results did not appear to be posted yet for the meets OBU and VIC were scheduled to compete in, but here is what I found for APU and LU

Azusa Results

Azusa's meet was all but rained out. Hope they didn't have anyone not qualified that they were counting on! They did get one good mark in...

http://www.apu.edu/athletics/trackandfield/boxscores/7423

600m

1 Caleb Lynch Azusa Pacific 1:19.1h

Even after conversions for handheld times and oversized tracks, this should still give him the lead in the 600.

Lindenwood Results

Lindenwood had their conference meet at Graceland.

http://www.graceland.edu/athletics_images/track_stats/2005_indoor/haac_finals.htm

Mile

1 Kiplagat, Soimo Lindenwood U 4:14.03

First mile of the year

DMR

1 Lindenwood University 'A' 10:16.77

That ranks about 5th with the marks posted currently

PV

1 Ryland, John Lindenwood U 16-01.00

Moves him into a tie for 3rd

TJ

1 Simpson, Elijah Lindenwood U 14.84mq

That is about 48-8, moving him up to 3rd place

Sprinters/Jumpers rule, You Vic lovers are going to love seeing 3 and 4 sprinters in every Final. And Triggs leading the way. Try and remember when you were on a track team in High school or Jr High. Sprinters/Jumpers ruled then sprinters/Jumpers rule now.

Peace brothers.

ahh, jumping ain't ever got anybody no where, except maybe higher. sprinting can only get u so far, otherwise people would sprint in the distance events, but they don't, cuz sprinting can only last so long and get u so far, and it might get u somewhere close really fast, but it won't last long enough to get u a title.

Leon, unfortunatly your claims have little historical base. No team in recent history has one with a majority of sprint points. If fact, it seems the only event group you can win scoring a large majority of your points in is mid distance. The reason for this would seem be there are more mid distence events and relays, plus most of these guys double up. Because I'm a nerd and have no life I broke down the last six national meets (because that is as far as the NAIA archives go back). I was a bit suprised by the results. I know I missed some points so feel free to correct my errors.

Here is how I broke down event groups-

Sprints Mid Distance Distance Throws Jumps Pent

55 600 3000 Wieght Long

55H 800 5000 Shot Triple

200 1000 High

400 Mile

4x400 4x800

DMR

1999- Cal Baptist (87)

S- 0

M- 56

D- 10

J- 1

I missed a few points here but this team won with almost all mid distance points. Ricky Ethridge led the way, running a 4:05 mile. Proves that a one diminsional team can win, as long as those guys are studs. I wonder if any other team has won Nats with zero sprint points.

2000 Life (71)

S- 14

M- 19

D- 18

T- 14

I was stunned at how balanced this team was. Most assume they won with all distance guys. Robby Hughes, currently one the top U.S. hurdlers, lead the sprint crew

2001 McKendree (57)

S- 8

M- 27

D- 6

J- 8

Once again a team that was lead by mid distance points. Overcame infamous Marlon Barnaby "I had my headphones on and missed my heat" debacle in the 55.

2002 Azusa Pacific

S- 14

M- 10

T- 20

Pent- 18

This team was lead by legends Bryan Clay, Jesse Roberge, and Chris Carlson. These three would go on to score all but one of APU's outdoor championships teams points. This proves you can win with three athletes, but I don't you probably won't find 3 guys this good on the same NAIA team again.

2003 Azusa Pacific (61)

S- 11

M- 45

J- 4

T- 2

Yet another team lead my mid distance points. I think we are looking a pattern here.

2004 Azusa Pacific (75)

S- 30

M- 34

T- 1

J- 10

Mike Mitchel had one of the best performances in NAIA history setting meet records in the 200 and long jump and anchoring the 4x400 to the win. Ran down the field in the 4x400 after banging the baton on his chest with 180 to go.

Conclusions- Must have must have mid distance point to win nats. All of these teams had superstars that and amazing performances. Who will get the mid points this year? Who will be the superstar that carries his team?

Oklahoma Baptist results finally got posted today. I still can't find results from VIC. Perhaps some of the VIC guys want to tell us how they did last weekend?

http://www.oc.edu/athletics/track/MensCompleteResults.aspx

5000 Meters

(1) Daniel Ellis, OBU, 15:14.39,

A good sized improvement on his season best time. A long shot to score for sure.

One Mile

(1) Landon Willets, OBU, 4:14.89

This puts him around the top 6

Shot Put

(2) Jeremiah Campo, OBU, 50-5,

A 2” improvement that could move him into the top 10

800 Meters

(1) Landon Willets, OBU, 1:56.43,

Also ranked in the 1000, mile, and 3000

200 Meters

(1) Clint Goodson, OBU, 22.35

Already ranked in the 55 and the 400

Nothing HUGE, but they got more people qualified in more events, giving them even more options.

Good stuff, but is the 600 a mid Distance or a long sprint.

Also Lindenwood has a boat load of top notch sprinters and jumpers. The pentathlon is usually won with a sprinter/ jumper athlete. Years past lindenwwod did not have a real good distance ace. This year they do, he may just steal a few VIC points, and that might make the difference. Oh well it will be a cool meet. Good luck to all runners, run your best so we computer nerds don't have to spend the following weeks talking about sub par performances making the difference.

PS Lukas Lach just might make the difference.

by the way, im wondering if there are going to be any after parties, im a frosh, this is my first time going.

A Question wrote:

by the way, im wondering if there are going to be any after parties, im a frosh, this is my first time going.

Ditto.

final list is now up for NAIA

So now that the final list is up, and guesses on what people are running? Here is my VIC prediction-

Chepsiror- 1000 (could run 800 or 600 but easiest 10 points is in the 1000)

Cabada- mile, 3k

Cheromei- mile, 3k

Duquette- 5k (if Soimo does the mile-3k double, will have an easy win in the 5k. Plus he has the slower 3k time)

Relays- The 4x800 should go straight to the final, which helps VIC, APU, and OBU, who should have no problem going 1-2-3. It hurts Lindenwood because these guys will have one less race on there legs. I would be suprised in VIC runs the 4x400(they qualified in December and haven't run one since) If they do, they will struggle to make the final. They can make the DMR final without the Big 3, and the final will be the 3 freshest guys(just like every other team)

Watch out for Jason Lewis in the 600 or 1000 and the relays(most likely 600). He could snag a 5th or 6th. Also watch for Puskar and Neff in the 3k. These three guys could put the meet out of reach.

We'll see on Thursday go accurate this is.

Pat Brown will not run the 400. He will run the 55 and the 200. What do you all think about chepsorir running the 600 and the 1k. I think there is enough time, if he has the training to do it. Its been done before, but the guy who did it was an animal (Anthony Kabara).

I think it really could come down to the end. Anything can happen and it wont go to plan for most of the teams but if it comes down to the 4x4 which is so very could I think you will se APU going back as National Champions. I think VI will be a really pressure on them with OBU and Lindenwood picking up the minor spots.

The problem with Intermont guys pulling doubles is the relays. They must score big in the DMR and 4x800 to win nationals. They are going to walk a fine line between maxing out their guys and killing them. Of course, anyone who wants to win will have to walk this line too. However, Intermont will have to walk it even more as their guys will be trying to do it in between the mile-3k-5k. As far as the 600-1000 double its possible, but remember, the relays.

I love runner_xc for being a stat nerd. Very good analysis of the situation.

will spring arbor run the dmr. that could potentially help lindenwood out.