14:06 college runner. Not going pro because of dopers

rojo wrote:

The OP is posting from the Midwest if it helps. I also will note he started a thread entiled, "Just got word I have to pass a drug test monday morning... Tips and advice?"

So maybe that's also why he's not faster. He's either a) a druggie or b) professional troll.

I think b).

A buddy of mine had texted me saying he was crushing it this summer starting some amazing threads and I know he vacations in the midwest. Maybe it's him.

I am in the midwest, yes.

And I am not that fast. My 5k pr is between 16:05-20. Not going to say exactly what it is because apparently you guys are way too good at your job.

I am a troll. I thought it'd be fun to mess with you guy and comine doping and " sub elite ". If it wasn't for rojo I'd have gotten away with it, too!

Unfortunately my marijuana thread is not a troll thread. Everything I have said on there is 100% true and I am scared shitless.

Sorry to the guys who ran 14:06 and were accused of being me. That's an impressive time in my eyes and best of luck with whatevet you guys decide to pursue.

Fine, but let's not end it yet. I constantly wonder as a post-collegiate coach, GBTC, where on the continuum an athlete makes a decision. The extremes are clear: if an athlete has limited talents, making a living from running is not possible, but so many athletes have two potentials in their lives, running and a job. Running opportunities (jobs) are very small but the economy needs workers of all levels. So at what performance does running earnings reach minimum wage? Then how fast to make a profit?

Or, if you were an investor what sort of athlete would you invest in whose earnings would pay better, you think, than investing in an index fund?

Or how much money would you invest in a 14:06 5k guy expecting 10% in earnings?

Or how fast would a 5 k guy have to be for you to bet $100,000 in support and get your money back?

I tell my athletes not to compromise work/school, or family for running, but train instead of watching television or such.

Going pro is hardly ever a good way to make a living, but training and racing with teammates on a post-collegiate club is a good way to make a life.

Tom

Regardless of the reason, dopers or whatever else, you made the right decision OP. Athletes contribute nothing but transient entertainment to the world. Your talents will almost certainly better the world more in whatever field you choose to pursue, than they would in running, and your life will be more fulfilled if running is a hobby that lacks the power to upset you than if you take it as seriously as the average letsrunner does.

Derderian wrote:

Going pro is hardly ever a good way to make a living, but training and racing with teammates on a post-collegiate club is a good way to make a life.

Tom

Nice words Tom, it sure is a nice way to make a life. And if you're simply working to pay the bills you can train a lot harder in your off time than most people would think. There are a lot of people running 14:06 sorta times on a full time work schedule.

A friend showed me this thread and I had a great laugh considering that I didn't post it. The detective work was impressive lol. I enjoyed reading the comments as I am still trying to decide if I should only continue running for fun or give it one more shot to see what I can do.

Kid. There's high school boys faster than you

OP, you can't let other people's actions dictate your life. If you think you have the desire and enjoy the sport, go for it. There are plenty of good athletes who work full time and yet compete at a high level. You can have the best of both worlds if you so desire.

The real Bryce McAndrew wrote:

A friend showed me this thread and I had a great laugh considering that I didn't post it. The detective work was impressive lol. I enjoyed reading the comments as I am still trying to decide if I should only continue running for fun or give it one more shot to see what I can do.

I am done posting under " Works Hard ", and will post under this name since this is my other name. Glad you got a good laugh out of it! For what it's worth, I think you should go for it and continue to train at a high level. Maybe continue your same training or try a diff approach. No idea what your other times are or what your training is like but go for it.

Millennials are too lazy and entitled to do any of these things...

You're also nowhere near good enough to go pro, but details.....

14:06 is noteworthy if you are a woman or a master's man. End of story.

If Bryce goes pro and makes money I deservs 4/20 of his contract

Damn bro, impressive.

who the hell vacations in the midwest?

It depends on your speed. If you run 14:06 and can't run a decent 800 then you could explore the marathon and make some real gains. It's not really worth it to keep training full time just to run 13:30 these days.

It definitely ain't Rhynard. That kid is a workhorse, banging out 90s and hundies. And he's run 13:49. Only reason he didn't light it up this year is cuz he got hurt and lost training momentum. Of the D2 runners, I doubt Knack would be it either...that kid is just as blue collar.

14:06 is slow for the mile. You cant go pro with that anyway.

Pro at 14:06???

You would be a very broke pro running 14:06. You are not running as a pro because you have no agent, no contract and no top level talent.

Works Hard wrote:

I am very under trained but with the state of the sport I'm choosing adult life over pursuing a professional contract.

Actually, you're not going pro because you are not fast enough.