Why are y'all so hopped up on Clayton Murphy!?
Yeah he was 4th last yr and made The team, yes he won indoor nationals...
But I honestly feel this yr will be one of the fastest finals. Olympic years are always very fast trials finals
Clayton isn't a 1:44 guy... Sowinski is Better than Murphy, berian at his best is a 1:43 guy. Brazier Solomon, and symmonds will all be in the mix I couldn't see Murphy being top 5 let along top 3.. Shaq walker could potentially beat Murphy also!
100 percent guarantee Symmonds won't be in the final. Take it to the bank.
He was in 1:47 shape, BEFORE he got hurt.
I'd watch out for this guy:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck2rdJ3W0AAB56K.jpg
Pretty good look for having just crossed the line in 1:45. He's not even bothering to breathe.
Brazier dropped out of the 800 heats at Juniors this morning.
Well idk how he'll be over 800 personally, I think he'll definitely be in the mix though and I won't be surprised if he gets top 3 tbh, it's really pretty up in the air although I feel like Borris should be a lock.
It is the 800ms. A lot of shit can happen. If you go out in 50, it is a fine line where you can get out a hair too fast and blow up. Or if you lay off figuring out if the field will run away from you or come back. If it goes out slowly (say 52), you have 8 people running in a small area and anything can happen especially when you are talking about that 3rd slot. Maybe some guys are timing (or mistiming) their peaks and are going to show a form they haven't all season. Who knows.
Spaghetimonster wrote:
This is the million dollar question of the trials. I don't think any other event is nearly as up in the air as the men's 800. We have...
Berian: World Champ, Pre winner, 1:43 in the last 12 months
Brazier: 1:43, NCAA Champ, nothing but upside
Sowinski: World Indoor Medallist, solid season so far.
Symmonds: Most decorated 800 runner in the country. Supposedly peaks at the right time.
Solomon: Probably not going to Rio, but a total wildcard, could change the whole race.
Murphy: Went to worlds last year, beat Berian, NCAA Champion several times.Clearly scared to run 800 though.
If you want my opinion, it is that Berian on paper is the winner. If he gets to the final and runs like he did at Pre, just barely holding the lead and controlling the race, he will win. Brazier blew by the leader at NCAAs, but that guy had a PR a second slower than Berian has. He was redlining, Berian may not be. I am totally discounting Symmonds. He is still injured according to his insta, and not in form. Sorry. Solomon, Sowinkski, Murphy, (Shaquille Walker?) all have a shot. I will say that it is Murphy with a big * there because I really really want Sowinski to make the team, but I see the order being.
Berian
Brazier
Murphy
With Brazier possibly edging Berian. All assuming Berian and Brazier don't screw up and not get into the final, both being amateurs in that sense.
Don't forget Walker (1:44.99) and Kidder (1:45.37)
Hold your horses wrote:
Brazier dropped out of the 800 heats at Juniors this morning.
No, he didn't show up. This is hardly a big surprise.
Samuel DeChamplain wrote:
420_mile_blaze_it wrote:Agree 100%. Symmonds is out (would be surprised if he made the final), Sowinksi nowhere close to top 3, and all of the OTC guys won't make the final. Top 3 is going to be Berian, Brazier, and either Solomon or Murphy.
All of that said, this has been an incredibly disappointing and at times frustrating year as an American track fan, as many of our professional runners have yet to run times that would be competitive in the current collegiate ranks. I'm afraid for an appallingly embarrassing showing for Team USA at Rio at this point.
I agree with this pretty much, it's been a pretty down year for the U.S.
That being said Symmonds worries about to much other than running and it's affected him injury or not, I think Brazier I'll be fine through the rounds the question will be if they take a toll on him I still think he could be top 3 though, and we'll have to see how Murphy does coming back down in distance that'll be interesting. But I feel like if Solomon is in shape it'll be Borris, Solomon, Brazier, Muphy. Really depends on how they do through the rounds, this definitely favors the more experienced runners imo who are used to the extra round.
Definitely disagree with this. First, the current collegiate ranks are pretty much the best they've ever been (far and away the fastest 800 final ever, fastest 1500 winner in 30 years or something, plus Yorks ran fastest US collegiate indoor mile). Obviously people are peaking later this year. Don't we have two of the three fastest 800 runners in the world this year? And the World Indoor champs over both 800 and 1500? And an 800 DL win? Are many of the old guard getting injured, of course. But I see more upside than ever.
I see Brazier as the wildcard, due both to inexperience and the fact he's had a long season and wasn't even going to run this meet until NCAAs. Basically Berian last year. I assume Berian goes out hard, as he pretty much always does. I definitely see Murphy as a sub-1:45 guy and see him qualifying. Solomon also very interesting.
the letter why wrote:
No, he didn't show up. This is hardly a big surprise.
I wonder what happened.
That's too bad wrote:
the letter why wrote:No, he didn't show up. This is hardly a big surprise.
I wonder what happened.
he turned professional. pros can't run Juniors. Brazier is fully committed to winning a spot on the Olympic team now.
agreed wrote:
pros can't run Juniors
Thanks for clearing that up.
If brazier feels fresh in the final I actually wouldn't be surprised if he gets the W, I believe only four Olympics finals were won with a faster time than he did st NCAA. The question Ig is, is this the time we can expect from him? Or more 1:44 range? If he's 1:43 he can win I think.
Aha` wrote:
agreed wrote:pros can't run Juniors
Thanks for clearing that up.
This is still false...
agreed wrote:
That's too bad wrote:I wonder what happened.
he turned professional. pros can't run Juniors. Brazier is fully committed to winning a spot on the Olympic team now.
Professional athlete Candace Hill won the 100m.
agreed wrote:
pros can't run Juniors
Aha` wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up.
This is still false...[/quote]
[quote]George II wrote:
Well then it sucks.
agreed wrote:
pros can't run Juniors
Aha` wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up.
George II wrote:
This is still false...
Well then it sucks.
Flaming out wrote:
agreed wrote:pros can't run Juniors
Aha` wrote:
Thanks for clearing that up.
George II wrote:
This is still false...
Well then it sucks.
I already said this on another thread, and if you guys used your noggins it wouldn't even need to be said, but I'll say it again here anyway. After running really fast at NCAAs and deciding to run the Okympic Trials, Brazier very reasonably and predictably decided to forego World Juniors in order to focus on the trials. There's nothing more to it than that.
Berian
May god bless all
