Expo21 wrote:
My freshman year I ran 5:11 and by my senior year I was a 4:15 miler.
I want to know how often you guys see runners improve this much over there highschool career.
Do you think it's a factor of discovering talent/potential or just hard work?
In order of importance:
1) Inherent talent.
2) Physical maturity during that time.
3) Hard work.
A quick look at seniors from last year who ran 4:15 for their PRs shows that most of them began at 4:45 or faster as freshmen, so to answer your first question, it would appear that most don't improve that much from freshman year to senior year.
That said, I have seen extremes which show that there really aren't any rules. I know a guy who ran 4:41 in 8th grade who only got down to 4:25 by his senior year in high school. I know a kid who ran 5:28 in 8th grade who ran 4:31 as a freshman. I know a guy who ran 4:53 in 8th grade and then only 5:15 as a freshman and didn't get below 4:53 again until he was a junior, ran 4:29 that year and then 4:11 as a senior.
So, you just can't predict the path that runners will take. Has to do with physical talent, interest, level of physical maturity, how much they ran in middle school vs. high school or even freshman year vs. senior year.
Scott Fry famously ran 10:45 for 3200 as a freshman, and then he got down to 8:48 as a senior and went on to set the Big Ten record for 5,000 meters. I was faster than he was as a freshman in HS, and I went on to not set the Big Ten record in the 5,000.