Ryan Hall: a dozen eggs per day (yes, that's 84 eggs per week !!!!)

Nobody can eat 12 eggs.

next? wrote:

Nobody can eat 12 eggs.

I can eat 50 eggs.

When my buddy was a lad, he used to eat 4 dozen eggs EVERY MORNING to help him get large. Now that he's grown he eats 5 DOZEN eggs. He's roughly the size of a barge.

Video evidence -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNlpuD42_BM&t=1m59s

Atwell, Jr. wrote:

So what? I eat 20 or 30 bananas at a time.

That is still my favorite thread on lrc. I think of it every time I see a banana

Thanks for the laugh. Funniest Thing I've seen on this board.

Are eggs "the secret"?

"What was the secret, they wanted to know; in a thousand different ways they wanted to know The Secret. And not one of them was prepared, truly prepared to believe that it had not so much to do with chemicals and zippy mental tricks as with that most unprofound and sometimes heart-rending process of removing, molecule by molecule, the very tough rubber that comprised the bottoms of his training shoes. The Trial of Miles, Miles of Trials. How could they be expected to understand that?"

Parker

Tyranosaurus Rexing wrote:

He's going to be in for a bad surprise next time he goes for his annual physical. That's roughly 10x the daily allowance of cholesterol and a shortcut to all kinds of cardiovascular diseases.

Please elaborate and include recent peer-reviewed science showing that dietary cholesterol above the FDA allowance is strongly implicated in cardiovascular disease within timeframes of ~1 year as you suggest.

Ryan Hall was a talented runner but a God-loving screwball like myself. Watch him get into CrossFit, BodyBuilding.com, American Gladiators, all while he volunteers for the Peace Corps with his newly adopted family

I got this, good one!

disgraceful_admin wrote:

Tyranosaurus Rexing wrote:

He's going to be in for a bad surprise next time he goes for his annual physical. That's roughly 10x the daily allowance of cholesterol and a shortcut to all kinds of cardiovascular diseases.

Please elaborate and include recent peer-reviewed science showing that dietary cholesterol above the FDA allowance is strongly implicated in cardiovascular disease within timeframes of ~1 year as you suggest.

Relax bro, you've been trolled. That guy is pretending to be the old me, and pretending to parrot my viewpoints (which he is not).

It is indeed accepted that dietary cholesterol has much less of an impact on blood cholesterol than does sat fat intake. Also, some foods with cholesterol, such as eggs and shrimp, are considered to be overall healthy food and of positive nutritive value. Therefore, the thinking is indeed that these foods need not be avoided.

However.......those with naturally high total and ldl cholesterol levels, would still be advised to not eat lots of dietary cholesterol, as there is, in general, some impact on blood cholesterol values (they are raised). Furthermore, there are people know as hyper-responders that will see their blood cholesterol values increase when they add a lot of dietary cholesterol to their diets, while others do not respond in this manner. So, if you are already have high cholesterol, or are a known "hyper-responder" to dietary cholesterol, adding lots of eggs to your diet is likely not a good idea.

Hope that clears things up for you. Let me know if I can be of further help.

fat is where it's at wrote:

Tyranosaurus Rexing wrote:

He's going to be in for a bad surprise next time he goes for his annual physical. That's roughly 10x the daily allowance of cholesterol and a shortcut to all kinds of cardiovascular diseases.

Ya, about that, you've apparently missed the last 30 years of nutrition research.

More important, as a christian is it ok to eat unborn young? Sure it is ok to kill things after they are born but isn't it unacceptable to do that to the unborn?

Hall sounds like a guy with an eating disorder. Sounds like he wasn't eating enough when training. Seriously running 20 miles/day requires a heck of a lot more calories than building some muscle mass.

A dozen eggs isn't anything too extreme other than the fact that it is boring as hell.

dude was shot and had low testosterone from over-training. this isn't about how he felt in his pr days. he never knew how to recover from hard workouts and never knew how to work on his speed. hard long tempos at altitude were his bread and butter. he is now playing all the sponsors and media outlets to get attention and money and it is working. He's very good at pr.

disgraceful_admin wrote:

Please elaborate and include recent peer-reviewed science showing that dietary cholesterol above the FDA allowance is strongly implicated in cardiovascular disease within timeframes of ~1 year as you suggest.

1. Just because the studies that show the strongest evidence that cholesterol is bad for you are the oldest ones, doesn't mean they're not true

2. It's common sense, cholesterol is bad for you, so don't eat it. You also don't eat a pound of butter per day, do you?

Tyranosaurus Rexing wrote:

disgraceful_admin wrote:

Please elaborate and include recent peer-reviewed science showing that dietary cholesterol above the FDA allowance is strongly implicated in cardiovascular disease within timeframes of ~1 year as you suggest.

1. Just because the studies that show the strongest evidence that cholesterol is bad for you are the oldest ones, doesn't mean they're not true

2. It's common sense, cholesterol is bad for you, so don't eat it. You also don't eat a pound of butter per day, do you?

I dearly hope you do not believe that your "tribute" to me/satire of some sort is amusing in any way, shape, or form. But if this is what you call "fun", by all means continue, knock yourself out even.

Other options wrote:

Nutella1 wrote:

Bernard Lagat runs 60mpw and he ran a 1:01 Half in NYC if I remember correctly. Then again, there was also this positive A sample years ago so you never know ...

Right but you don't think Bernard is worth 59 flat or faster when compared to his 1500? 61 is not equivalent. He knows it but he wasn't training for it specifically. He and his coach know he could have run substantially faster at the longer distances if trained to do so but he focused on the 1500/5k for as long as possible by the time he was 35+ they were just trying to keep him healthy without adding too much volume.

Bernard Lagat's actual half-marathon time was 1:02:33 at NYC in 2013.

He also has changed his training some, with tempo runs moving from 5 to 8 miles. His mileage also increased as he moved from 1500m to 5000m, and he just ran his first road 10k (27:48) last year and his first track 10k (27:49.35) this year, setting over-40 age group world records in both of his debuts. That is not too bad. Bernard Lagat and Abdi Abdirahman both train in Flagstaff, Arizona. I just saw Abdi running twice on June 4. He runs a lot.

Yea. He's pretty fast.

Hopefully they don't go anywhere near a naked flame

Tyranosaurus Rexing wrote:

disgraceful_admin wrote:

Please elaborate and include recent peer-reviewed science showing that dietary cholesterol above the FDA allowance is strongly implicated in cardiovascular disease within timeframes of ~1 year as you suggest.

1. Just because the studies that show the strongest evidence that cholesterol is bad for you are the oldest ones, doesn't mean they're not true

2. It's common sense, cholesterol is bad for you, so don't eat it. You also don't eat a pound of butter per day, do you?

1) it also doesn't mean they are correct. Recent research has shown blood cholesterol is only losely related to dietary intake (something like 10-20%) and most people are in fact not getting enough of it from their diet which causes their liver to have to work extra hard to make it.

2) Common sense is often wrong since it often comes from group think. For example you think cholesterol is bad. Why? Largely because of a discredited 1950s study. You might want to think about why the body produces so much of a material that you think is bad.

As far as eating 1 lb of butter, sure that is bad. But can you name ANY food where it is ok to eat 3200 calories of it? Extremes of just about anything are bad. I will not pretend to know if 12 eggs per day cross over into that extreme level or not.

"Tain't nothin' wrong with a little bird jism every now and then."

Janis Joplin

Ryan Hall's loss of form and poor racing could have a far simpler explanation than low T.

A few months ago I couldn't run due to extreme fatigue. Even a walk / jog was difficult. I found out that my magnesium level was extremely low by having a RBC magnesium test. Over 70% of the population is deficient in Mg. Overtraining [or stress generally] will severely deplete Mg. And Mg is needed for over 300 biochemical reactions within the body. Mg is not found in animal products. Most processed foods have little Mg. Within 2 weeks of Mg supplementation [3 grams daily] I felt much better and could resume training. And now after 6 weeks, I'm back at full training.