MIAC CC 2016

True Story wrote:

*Gets angry

*Can't prove identity

*Hammers out a super, crazy, hardcore run

....at 8:30 a mile pace...

*Cries at the fact that I'll never score

Yah f*** this cross country shite I'm here to run track and slay ass.

Nerds! wrote:

I just let my nerds do my homework...

you guys have that at your schools...right?

This guy can come to my birthday party

I think it is about time we start asserting ourselves as the D3 powerhouse conference that we are. Thus, we start with "tutors" that do our homework. It's the only way we'll continue to get top tier D3 recruits.

What does a top tier D3 recruit entail?

1:57 800m

4:25-4:30 mile

9:50 - 10:00 2 mile

a 16:50 5k (But they swear they ran a sub 16:30, it just isn't online anywhere).

Unless you are Olaf, of course. Then the stipulations are as followed:

800m: 1:45 (or an appearance at the USA Olympic Trials)

Mile: 3:53 or 1500m equivalent

2 mile: 7:59 (at least that is what Jake Campbell came in with)

5k: Unless you hold your country's national record, you aren't going here

10k: Have beaten Chris Solinsky in a 5 mile time trial on the Wisco course.

...but that's it

The D3 powerhouse is the WIAC. We should all transfer to Stout, LAX, EC, Oshkosh and Platteville. Collectively we'd save millions of dollars.

I feel like only 3 of the schools in that conference are "Powerhouse" schools. The others just reap the benefits of being in the same conference.

For both XC and track, their only really good schools are La Crosse, Eau Claire, and Oshkosh. Platteville doesn't count because they only have Ian.

The rest of their conference kind of blows.

MIAC > WIAC wrote:

I feel like only 3 of the schools in that conference are "Powerhouse" schools. The others just reap the benefits of being in the same conference.

For both XC and track, their only really good schools are La Crosse, Eau Claire, and Oshkosh. Platteville doesn't count because they only have Ian.

The rest of their conference kind of blows.

Whitewaters track trophies in recent years beg the differ. Unless you were referring to programs being good at both xc AND track, if that's the case then carry on sir.

"For both xc and track..."

Took less than 2 hours for someone to come defend the WIAC

I was mostly aiming at both track and xc. I was going to throw WhiteWater in there, but I didn't want to have to write multiple paragraphs explaining why they were only good at track. Then explaining why they weren't top tier for both sports. Don't get me wrong, though, they are very solid at track.

MIAC > WIAC wrote:

I feel like only 3 of the schools in that conference are "Powerhouse" schools. The others just reap the benefits of being in the same conference.

For both XC and track, their only really good schools are La Crosse, Eau Claire, and Oshkosh. Platteville doesn't count because they only have Ian.

The rest of their conference kind of blows.

Point, Platteville, River Falls, and Stout would all be top 2-3 in the MIAC. So I'm not sure what your argument is.

Please. None of those teams have depth. Some didn't score over 50 points at their conference track meet.

River falls is just bad wrote:

Please. None of those teams have depth. Some didn't score over 50 points at their conference track meet.

But we're not talking about track are we? How about we finish this conversation on the finish line in Louisville? We can sort out whose better there.

Shut up, you are both right. I posted a few meets where the MIAC and WIAC faced off bellow. Yes, the WIAC is good. But, their only powerhouse teams, so to speak, are Eau Claire, Oshkosh, La Crosse, and Ian Lamere. Platteville is good, but not as formidable as the previous three without Ian. The MIAC's only powerhouse is Saint Olaf (as expected), but they are still very good.

Eau Claire, Olaf, Oshkosh, La Crosse, and Ian Lamere are tier 1 teams

Platteville, Saint John's, Saint Thomas, Gustavus, Carleton (formerly) are tier 2

Stout and Bethel are tier 3

The rest are bellow that. I probably forgot some teams, but the point remains. The WIAC has a great top 3/4. But they drop off significantly after that. The MIAC has a great 1 with Olaf, and there is a drop-off, but not as significantly. The MIAC has more depth. Good? Good.

http://www.uwoshkoshtitans.com/sports/mxc/2015-16/files/RoyGriakInvitational.pdf

Roy Griak

1. Wis. Oshkosh - 28

3. Bethel - 106

5. Wis. River Falls - 126

6. Hamline - 152

9. Macalester - 199

11. Concordia-Moorhead - 348

https://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/8922.html

Eau Claire BlueGold Invitational

1. Eau Claire - 45

2. Olaf - 60

3. Wis. La Crosse - 86

4. Platteville - 134

5. St. John's - 140

8. Wis. Stout - 259

10. Wis. Superior - 275

13. Saint Mary's - 355

14. Augsburg - 422

17. Wis. River Falls - 500

https://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/9128.html

Jim Drews/Tori Neubauer Invitational

2. Olaf - 56

4. UW La Crosse - 102

6. Saint John's - 175

7. Gustavus - 186

11. Wis. River Falls - 289

14. Saint Mary's - 385

https://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/9199.html

NCAA DIII Central Regional XC Meet

1. Olaf - 62

6. Gustavus - 227

7. St. John's - 230

9. St. Thomas - 254

10. Carleton - 258

11. Bethel - 270

12. Wis. Superior - 302

https://www.tfrrs.org/results/xc/9349.html

NCAA DIII Cross Country Championships

1. Eau Claire - 135

4. Olaf - 211

9. Wis. La Crosse - 300

13. Wis. Oshkosh - 345

27. Wis. Platteville - 599

Please don't use the regional meet as any indication of how good the MIAC is. Every team (including Olaf) flopped.

He still used other meets. Sooooooo, who cares? Looks like his (or her I guess? I'm not sexist) point still stands.

See you in Kentucky wrote:

River falls is just bad wrote:

Please. None of those teams have depth. Some didn't score over 50 points at their conference track meet.

But we're not talking about track are we? How about we finish this conversation on the finish line in Louisville? We can sort out whose better there.

Hope you're academically eligible by then.

WIAC incoming wrote:

See you in Kentucky wrote:

But we're not talking about track are we? How about we finish this conversation on the finish line in Louisville? We can sort out whose better there.

Hope you're academically eligible by then.

Hey that's a cheap shot. You know how hard it is to get good grades with your girlfriends always calling trying to hook up with guys that can actually run?

wiac uberalis wrote:

WIAC incoming wrote:

Hope you're academically eligible by then.

Hey that's a cheap shot. You know how hard it is to get good grades with your girlfriends always calling trying to hook up with guys that can actually run?

I've seen a better sentence from a 1st grader. Try again bro.

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