MIAC CC 2016

Bethel is getting a freshman this year who went 49.16 in the 400m his junior year of high school, and that same xc season he went low 17 in the 5k. While his 5k time doesn't turn heads, that has got to be some impressive range for a junior in high school. (Senior year he mirrored those times).

And get this, he is coming from Okinawa, Japan. Him and Bugler from Saint John's were high school teammates at one point, I believe.

I thought Bugler went to school in North Carolina?..

And I don't know why you're bringing that up right now. Sounds like a track post, not an XC post. Here is my predictions:

Individuals

1. Coffey/Bugler

No idea here. Coffey has beaten Bugler the past couple of meetings in XC, but not by much each time. Both have improved a lot. Toss up for me. I think we know what we are getting when it comes to Coffey. A strong runner from a successful program who will assume the role of the star of St. Olaf's squad. Bugler, though? I have no f***ing idea. I say he has no foot speed, he runs a fast 1k indoors. I say he has no strength, he runs a solid opening 5k. I say he can't race, he wins nationals. What the hell, guy?? That said, I'm gonna go with Coffey. He has better training partners and ran a 3:46 1500m. That's pretty solid for me.

3. Knobbe - Gustavus

4. Jovan Newsum - St. Mary's

5. Evan Jones - Gustavus

6. Ephraim Bird - St. Thomas

7 & 8. Timm and Ketola - Either one.

9. Maxwell Kuzara - St. John's

10. Carston Damman - Gustavus

11. Chris O'Hare - St. Mary's - (Dark Horse)

Teams

Olaf - duh. Plus they are getting a stud freshman miler, which only makes them better.

St. John's - Lose Tommy, but Bugler assumes that role. Boost of depth with St. Cloud Sate Transfers.

Gustavus - Only lost Paul Nordquist. Big loss, but these guys are good. Really good. All true XC guys.

St. Thomas - Idk about any incoming freshman, but their only good returners are Bird and Trevor Smith. Solid pack of underclassmen after that, but nothing spectacular. Not enough to take down a good Gustavus squad.

Bethel - Their underclassmen from last year will round in to form. Hatton will be solid top - 20 guy.

St. Mary's - Jovan and O'Hare (Dark Horse, again) are a good 1-2 punch for them

Everyone else. I don't want to type anymore.

I believe Chris O'Hare is a pro from Great Britain.

I'm taking Chris O'Hare here, then.

Pro from GB takes it by 30+ followed by MOMO

Also, about the Bethel frosh. With their 400 coach and their 4x400, this sounds like someone who's going to take a spot in that 4x400. Doubt he runs cross. A lot like Carl Klamm, because that worked well this last year.

lol no they did not, some one is trolling hard.

Beth, Carly, Mary and Hambone wrote:

I want to hear from someone who was at River Falls. Did Gustavus as a team REALLY cut the course noticeably more than other teams? If so, did their coach tell them to? Did they really want the win that day? Just in general wtf?

My team ran at the river falls meet and yeah there was cutting by a lot of teams. Pretty much any team/group that went out as a pack was cutting. It was single lined so you do what you need to do to stay competitive. I will say Corbett, Ross, Savola, Borash and Lindquist ran legit races though. They were about 15m ahead of me for most of it.

TheEasyWayOut wrote:

Beth, Carly, Mary and Hambone wrote:

I want to hear from someone who was at River Falls. Did Gustavus as a team REALLY cut the course noticeably more than other teams? If so, did their coach tell them to? Did they really want the win that day? Just in general wtf?

My team ran at the river falls meet and yeah there was cutting by a lot of teams. Pretty much any team/group that went out as a pack was cutting. It was single lined so you do what you need to do to stay competitive. I will say Corbett, Ross, Savola, Borash and Lindquist ran legit races though. They were about 15m ahead of me for most of it.

Yo, who cares if they cut? Quit making excuses for why your team lost a meet and focus on beating them this year and maybe run an honest race this year. The first race should be about laying down a good hard effort for an accurate time to base training off anyways.

Def the auggies wrote:

TheEasyWayOut wrote:

My team ran at the river falls meet and yeah there was cutting by a lot of teams. Pretty much any team/group that went out as a pack was cutting. It was single lined so you do what you need to do to stay competitive. I will say Corbett, Ross, Savola, Borash and Lindquist ran legit races though. They were about 15m ahead of me for most of it.

Yo, who cares if they cut? Quit making excuses for why your team lost a meet and focus on beating them this year and maybe run an honest race this year. The first race should be about laying down a good hard effort for an accurate time to base training off anyways.

Your "I'm from Gustavus" is showing

I found the new Bethel Freshman coming in. Wasn't too hard to find. Just googled 49.16 and Japan. Super easy, actually. According to the guy's Facebook page, he is going to Bethel. Looks like they are going to be stacked in the mid-D category the next couple of years.

http://www.athletic.net/TrackAndField/Athlete.aspx?AID=4755117#/L0

It is June and this thread is about, "waaaaahhhhh some people cut the course a little at the UW-River Falls (UWRF? Did I just type that? Oh ffs.) invitational."

Go for a run or something.

I assume Klamm will stay down at 400 and hopefully (for my sake) the freshman will too. Their other guys, who are mid-d but not the xc runners that Hatton is, possibly move down permanently too, as they have 2-3 years now to get a stupid fast 4x400 together.

A REALLY fast 4x400m. In the next year, a 49.xx high guy may not make their squad. Assuming they all stay healthy and improve. I agree with what you said. I assume, and almost hope, that they take their mid-D group and keep them off the XC courses. One, so that I don't have to race them. Two, so that they can develop them more. As a fan of T&F, I want everyone to reach the highest of their potentials.

People don't forget wrote:

I assume Klamm will stay down at 400 and hopefully (for my sake) the freshman will too. Their other guys, who are mid-d but not the xc runners that Hatton is, possibly move down permanently too, as they have 2-3 years now to get a stupid fast 4x400 together.

I thought this was a XC thread, stop talking about track

since when did MIAC threads stay on topic?

CC? wrote:

People don't forget wrote:

I assume Klamm will stay down at 400 and hopefully (for my sake) the freshman will too. Their other guys, who are mid-d but not the xc runners that Hatton is, possibly move down permanently too, as they have 2-3 years now to get a stupid fast 4x400 together.

I thought this was a XC thread, stop talking about track

you ever notice how you can figure out who's GPA is below 3.5 just by looking at the Academic All Conference list, looking at who scored, and using logic? kind of f*cked, really.

I just let my nerds do my homework...

you guys have that at your schools...right?

If anyone ever asks me why I didn't make that academic list, I just tell them that I had a 3.49 GPA and that the system screwed me over.

Nah you just didn't score at conference