Single Digits wrote:
rode2rio wrote:I'm not sure he's not top 3, but he may be 3rd. Centro is a consistent top 4 finisher at international championships. Last summer was his outlier.
Ahem, last summer Centro set his 1500 PR. How is that his outlier?
Read my post a little more carefully. Hint: look for the context of why I was talking about!
Single Digits wrote:
Why would he worry about a runner who won 10th and 11th places in "real" 1500s last year? Centro's goal should be finish between 7th and 9th; an impressive improvement in a single year.
Could you provide the data on all the international championships which have gone under 3:30? Thanks.
"Should Asbel Kiprop be worry about Centro?"
How is this even a question? Centro is THE MAN!
I would not say, it was a weak field, there were world recorded holder in the 1000m in the race and 3 more with 3:30 and under pr.
Naturalrunner wrote:
After the trilling finish in the indoor world championship, Should kiprop be worry about Centro? I think Centro is in amazing shape and he is very good in positioning himself for win.
No more than Rudisha should be worried about Nick "The Nozzle" Symmonds.
themanontherun wrote:
In a time trial, no. Asbel Kiprop will be unbeatable in a sub 3:30 race, almost certainly. A 3:30-3:33 race he would be beatable, and in a 3:34+ race Centro would have a great shot.
Last Year's World Championships was won in 3:34 by Kiprop.
Centro was 8th in 3:36. And that was a PR year by Centro where he ran 3:30.
But Centro got a Bronze in a year where his PR was 3:34.
So you never know what's going to happen.
Except that Kiprop will probably win at any pace.
Centro has two world medals, silver and bronze, plus this indoor gold, he ran 3:30 last year and thinks he can break 3:30 now, and he has had a full, healthy indoor campaign, running a 3:50 mile, so you have to consider him a medal contender, despite last year's finish.
Star wrote:
Last Year's World Championships was won in 3:34 by Kiprop.
Centro was 8th in 3:36. And that was a PR year by Centro where he ran 3:30.
But Centro got a Bronze in a year where his PR was 3:34.
So you never know what's going to happen.
Except that Kiprop will probably win at any pace.
No. No. No.
You don't seem to understand.
Centro is THE MAN.
I've been calling it for years. Gold in Rio.
Count on it.
Star wrote:
themanontherun wrote:In a time trial, no. Asbel Kiprop will be unbeatable in a sub 3:30 race, almost certainly. A 3:30-3:33 race he would be beatable, and in a 3:34+ race Centro would have a great shot.
Last Year's World Championships was won in 3:34 by Kiprop.
Centro was 8th in 3:36. And that was a PR year by Centro where he ran 3:30.
But Centro got a Bronze in a year where his PR was 3:34.
So you never know what's going to happen.
Except that Kiprop will probably win at any pace.
I stand by what I said. If the race should so happen to turn out like the 2012 800m with a super fast pace from the gun, it could be an all timer. If that happens, Kiprop is the man, no doubt about it. If the race goes down anywhere faster than last year, he is beatable, but it would take a perfect race from someone else. If the race goes last year or slower pace to win, Centro is among a number of guys who have the ability to win such a race (though Kiprop would still be the favorite).
The thread title was "should Kiprop be worried about Centro?" and the answer is a qualified 'yes.'
Centro will win. Kiprop may finish in 12th place again.
Kiprop should worry if it's a 3:44 indoor race only
Of Course the doper Kiprop should worry Centro is the man
themanontherun wrote:
If the race goes last year or slower pace to win, Centro is among a number of guys who have the ability to win such a race (though Kiprop would still be the favorite).
Who the F cares who wins if that happens?
That's why there are NO good American 1500 runners, that's right ZERO. Sub 3:30 is an impossible dream for all of them because their only strategy is chasing medals in slow championships.
Meanwhile the real 1500 runners are on the Diamond League circuit year after year chasing WORLD RECORDS. US runners are minor league, no matter how many medals they get. They can't even get into most DL events.
When Centro races DL he is always near DFL. He is a dog eating scraps that fall off the elite miler's table.
afasfasf wrote:
Yes he should, but Kiprop should be more worried about Kiprop. Kiprop has proven himself to be an exceptional talent and a sometimes very unexceptional racer.
3x world champ and 1xolympic gold medalist? I'll take that any day. You can call me as unexceptional as you wish!
Naturalrunner wrote:
I would not say, it was a weak field, there were world recorded holder in the 1000m in the race and 3 more with 3:30 and under pr.
Where did the 1000m world record holder finish?
How can you say that sub 3:30 is an impossible dream for a guy who has run 3:30.4 and is in the prime of his career?
Centro will easily outsmart that stupid wife beater.
rode2rio wrote:
Single Digits wrote:Ahem, last summer Centro set his 1500 PR. How is that his outlier?
Read my post a little more carefully. Hint: look for the context of why I was talking about!
Your comprehension skills are rather weak. What part of "he was finishing top 4, then he ran 4 seconds faster and managed only 10/11 place finishes" do you fail comprehend? Here is some help: Centro got faster, but everyone else got even more fast. Got it?
Naturalrunner wrote:
After the trilling finish in the indoor world championship, Should kiprop be worry about Centro? I think Centro is in amazing shape and he is very good in positioning himself for win.
No.
themanontherun wrote:
In a time trial, no. Asbel Kiprop will be unbeatable in a sub 3:30 race, almost certainly. A 3:30-3:33 race he would be beatable, and in a 3:34+ race Centro would have a great shot.
2015 World Results. It was exactly the race you talked about and it wasn't close.
Asbel Kiprop KEN 3 3:34.40 « »
2 Elijah Manangoi KEN 3:34.63 « »
3 Abdelaati Iguider MAR 3:34.67 « »
4 Taoufik Makhloufi ALG 3:34.76 « »
5 Silas Kiplagat KEN 3:34.81 « »
6 Nick Willis NZL 25 3:35.46 « »
7 Timothy Cheruiyot 3:36.05 « »
8 Matthew Centrowitz U 3:36.13 « »
Centrowitz was undefeated indoors last year as he was this year. Yes, he's better this year but. 350.63 to 351.35 but he was beaten by a lot more than .72 last year.
Indoors means nothing. Remember when Rupp was a god indoors. Didn't help him outdoors. In 2013, Centro got second after not even really doing indoors.