it is realised more in retrospect when guy had small window of opportunity to smash the record
because he was already damn tired by athens-'97 with 3 successive races then 1 day break before solo 1'43+ win & probably finished but went to zurich just 5 days later with no proper resting/recovery from gold & ran incredible !!!
he has stated he was not recovered for monaco with 52.0 / 50.7 !!! just 3 days later
then a 1'42.2 in brussels few days later & then absurdly, just 44 hours later in brutal 89F he split still too damn quick opener :
if he had no pesky wc to run & couda planned his wr assault fully rested & targeted 1 of zurich or monaco or brussels or koln for the peak effort & got weather/smooth pacing to bell/etc, the WR wouda been
at elite level it has to be a "known" meet/track with fully auto-timing
what is this rubbish ?
unknown meet - what berlin/brussels/eugene/london/oslo/stockholm/zurich was it in '81 ?
as for HT : get a clue : olizarenko's 1'54.85 in '80 had HT including 1'54.5 & 1'54.6 !!!
the HTs were upto 0.35+s out !!!
utter nonsense to claim validity of 800 HTs
if you have seen the races live on satellite or on youtube you re-assess them & offer "corrected" for "control" of "ideal" fully rested 800 paced smoothly to bell in 0 wind/etc
monaco 800 was wild !
souly went for it, got nothing of worth for drafting, ran an incredible ~ 8.5m extra on bends & was worth
that day in "perfect route-1 paced-to-bell" effort
Asbel is a superior athlete to souly
Ryun's are big shoes
Earl Jones at 19y ran outdoor 1'43.7 solo to win '84 trials after rounds on successive days off stoopidly quick opening 200
he was probably worth 1'42-mid in it if a fully rested 1-off, smoothly paced to bell run :
Berian opened in almost the same excat time, and has already run 1:43 outdoors. It will be interesting to see how the two fare for this year. 1:42 for Boris and 1:43 for Donavan are not out of the question.
Similar to the slurs lunched by a regular on LRC under a different name.
Who are you talking about? Just about everyone hurls insults especially on politics, religion, global warming. Did you see the flat earth thread? It's a war over there. Ventolin just does his insults in a unique way, he stacks them vertically.
NO-ONE CAN SAY, IT IS AN IMAGINARY SITUATION. THAT IS MY POINT. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN OBJECTIVE "INTRINSIC VALUE" TO A RUN.
He's three seconds off this and you have no idea what he's been doing in training. You're just having a guess based on his lovely form and where he sits on the all time list. But it doesn't work like that; for one thing, there is clearly more of a focus on these indoor meets for a US college athlete than for a Kenyan professional.
I was agreeing with you that Johnny Gray was fast. No idea what point you're making here.
Peak Ventolin. I'm not allowed to argue from a position in the real world.
"Worth" quicker than his PBs is a worthless proposition.
Never happens. Irrelevant.
I do. It obviously is. He ran 3 seconds slower than this though you mad man.
Come on now. David Sharpe, GB 800m runner, 1:45 junior, world junior champion, European indoor champ at 20, predicted by Peter Coe to become world's best. Never kicked on for various reasons and ended with a best of 1:43.98. Not bad by any means, but obviously less than might've been hoped for.
Going to A&M might be the best decision he ever made. I have seem a lot of talented 400/800 types who happen to be good miler and decent XC runner, ruined by having to run 'big time' XC. Big time meaning expected to score on team chasing conference and NCAA bids. A true 400/800 athlete needs at least a week to fully recover from an 8K XC race and a competitive 10K race will be in their legs for weeks.