Footlocker is a joke!!!

Who?

Smooth playa wrote:

What kind of national championship doesn't have a team competition. Its stupid, NXN is obviously supioer. Why doesn't Footlocker just give up?

If you follow the coverage, it's kind of obvious they already are. Or maybe it just seems that way. NXN put on a better production and livecast than NCAA. Footlocker isn't great.

You're obviously about 16 years old with zero sense of history. You're blinded by all the glitz, glam, and free gear that nike throws out. Footlocker (Kinney) has stood the test of time, and I expect will in the future. Incidentally, pick up a book once in awhile. Your punctuation and sentence structure is atrocious.

I honestly don't know who won the NXN races.

But I know all the contenders getting set to run tomorrow.

For anyone over 25 y/o, that's just how it is.

I watched Nike live- it was impressive- great camera work and great coverage.

I like the team aspect- Footlocker dropped the ball on that. They could have added it and refused.

199 runners vs 40 runners

The best teams with some of the top individuals vs great runners who happen to be on a poor team.

Nike's got it.

it burns the eyes wrote:

free gear that nike throws out

Foot Locker gives out tons of free gear, too. Don't act like that's just a Nike thing.

some old guy wrote:

it burns the eyes wrote:

free gear that nike throws out

Foot Locker gives out tons of free gear, too. Don't act like that's just a Nike thing.

Since when does receiving "free gear" constitute a quality event? Are you a person who runs races just for the giant finisher's medal too?

Not a jogger wrote:

some old guy wrote:

Foot Locker gives out tons of free gear, too. Don't act like that's just a Nike thing.

Since when does receiving "free gear" constitute a quality event? Are you a person who runs races just for the giant finisher's medal too?

What's your point? He was simply pointing out that one of the criticisms of NXN (free gear) is also a characteristic of FL.

I never ran NXN, only Foot Locker. NXN is for team greatness, Foot Locker is for individual greatness.

Too many fatties at NXN. Foot Locker is pure quality. NXN had boys running over 20 minutes for 5K. Most of the runners suck, only some quality at NXN.

^^^This. Footlocker is quality from the front to the back: the best of the best.

Bottled Fresh wrote:

^^^This. Footlocker is quality from the front to the back: the best of the best.

Same could be said for the NCAAs. Might as well make it race for the top 40 runners and leave the hacks at home. Too many guys at the college level get free gear, free travel, and will never amount to anything (running-wise) after college.

NXN isn't perfect, but cross country is also a team sport.

If Asics, Brooks, or anyone but Nike had come up with the concept, it would have been considered a positive move.

runn wrote:

I watched Nike live- it was impressive- great camera work and great coverage.

I like the team aspect- Footlocker dropped the ball on that. They could have added it and refused.

199 runners vs 40 runners

The best teams with some of the top individuals vs great runners who happen to be on a poor team.

Nike's got it.

Runn, you've had a vendetta against footlocker for years and constantly predict its demise. It hadn't happened yet. Every year, the FLN champion is indisputably better than the NXN champion, and the top-end talent is better too. Sure, if I were the 7th man who ran 17:15, I'd love NXN, but if I were an elite HS runner, I'd know footlocker had the better competition. Note: I was much closer to being that 7th man than an elite.

You can't even buy good running shoes there anyway. Not in Canada anyway.

Here we go again!

FL: Lots of history, great opportunity for the top few kids in each region to see how they stack up nationally. In XC, this is not obvious until they run head to head.

NXN: Far more than track, XC is a team sport, so it was long overdue to have a national HS championship. Every state does at HS level. Every conference does at collegiate level. NCAAs would not attract even half as much interest if it was just the top 40 individuals.. Now high school also does, and it is a real motivator for the top programs.

You don't have to one thing just because you like another thing.

Footnote: "NXN is just a gear giveaway". Anyone who says this clearly did not run at FL and therefore does not know that they also walk away with a duffel bag full of gear. The gear itself is no big deal... what is of value to these kids is earning something that can't be bought.

Smooth playa wrote:

What kind of national championship doesn't have a team competition. Its stupid, NXN is obviously supioer. Why doesn't Footlocker just give up?

I disagree. For the casual fan, no one cares about HS sports. College football fans just want to know who the stud RB is and how many TDs he had. Same thing in basketball. Who is the next big recruit for Kentucky or LeBron?

I guess for HS fans the team stuff is important but whatever. Ideally, there would be one meet but it sort of seems unfair that Foot Locker's good deeds would be just taken over by NXN. It would have been nicer if a team competition had been added to Foot Locker but the business world is cut-throat.

Plus NXN is impossible to follow as they all have fake names. As a Dallas Mavericks fan, I'd be confused if they started showing in results as the Central Texas Hoopers.

Real quick, no cheating, what team won NXN on each side?

Ohh, I Thought so ..LOL

They do have a team competition.

Rojo,

Honestly, if it wasn't Nike, would you feel the same? And, for what it's worth, Nike tried to work with Foot Locker for one individual and team national championship. It was still going to be called Foot Locker. FL declined. Nike forged ahead with a model that better represents cross country, individual AND team competition.

You're correct in that casual fans don't follow HS sports, but you could argue that casual fans don't follow NCAA cross county either. Yet we don't advocate for a race of just the top individuals.