Why is it hot women are close to impossible to get in HS/College, difficult to get in mid to late 20s, but actually

Women in their later 20's do things they wouldn't have at a younger age in order to seem more appealing to men (ie. watch sports, and learn to cook well) so the men will see them as more appealing mates.

Clearly most guys posting here are in their early 20's. Believe me women in mid 30's to early 40's are the hottest around. Just wait fellas....:)

ask ANY woman at 40 if shed like to have her 20 year old body back. Even anne Hathaway is losing leading roles because shes "too old" to costar with some guy in his mid fifties lol

you guys are idiots.

Garbage college is easiest

Nishinomiya wrote:

I am 55 and live in Japan and get flirted at very often by 20 year olds. It is strange those same girls wouldn't have given me a look 10 years ago. Unfortunately/fortunately I am married now so I have to resist the temptation.

It's well known that Asian women love white guys. Now if you're not a white guy, I don't know what to tell you.

look at this graph wrote:

Conundrum wrote:

...... women in their mid to late 20s look much better than they did from ages 17 through 22.

Interesting that you come to the exact opposite conclusion that everyone else has. Either you are a liar, a troll, or just have odd preferences.

Not in all cases, but their are more hot women in the mid to late 20s than in that 17 through 22 age range.

Reasons:

The younger group have a number of girls who frankly are not that well developed. Often the college aged girls are frumpy compared to the older set. The older woman know how to dress, present themselves, and are just more appealing.

A fit 30s female is even better than the 20s.

Not in all cases, but their are more hot women in the mid to late 20s than in that 17 through 22 age range.

Reasons:

The younger group have a number of girls who frankly are not that well developed. Often the college aged girls are frumpy compared to the older set. The older woman know how to dress, present themselves, and are just more appealing.

A fit 30s female is even better than the 20s.

This thread is so freaking bizarre. No one's even noticing the irony. Pretty rich that a bunch of men who spend their time online complaining about women are shocked, SHOCKED, that they have a hard time getting women to date them. Right, fellas. It's not you, it's them. Sure.

I would not date a college girl, no. I prefer someone with life experiences, travel, wisdom, accomplishments, respect, and confidence. And I absolutely find women in their 30s and 40s beautiful. I am not bitter that they dared to get older.

johnny waterski wrote:

haskell wrote:

please assure me that this is true.

It was definitely true in my case. High school never had a hot girl friend and college was not a whole lot better. By my mid twenties it was getting better and now that I'm 31 it's substantially easier.

Having confidence, experience, money and not weighing 140 lbs (160 now) is the difference.

My life exactly. Lacking in confidence torpedoed my HS and college game, though in hindsight I still could have done well if I wasn't SUCH a dweeb.

Something clicked in my mid-twenties; understood myself and others much better, and suddenly success with babes (of all ages) was MUCH easier.

The trend has just escalated into my now mid-30's. Confidence and ease around the opposite sex are at all-time highs. Get hit on by attractive females often. Before 30, I had to do ALL the chasing.

HUGE CAVEAT: I got married to a great woman in my late 20's, and have been faithful, so the "late-bloomer" success has been as frustrating as it has been enjoyable. It's a source of temptation, as I could easily score at every business conference I go to now. It's like being given a new toy that you can't play with. But I love my wife, so I soldier on.

LESSON for the youngsters: If you are a runner dweeb, keep hope alive. Work on your social skills every day, talk to as many people as you can to improve your interpersonal skills. If you have the desire of "playing the field," i.e. having biblical relations with numerous females, do not settle down with a dud before your mid-30's, because if you keep yourself fit and attractive, and achieve a little financial comfort, the game tilts HUGELY in your favor.

Wow this is a real generalisation and while true for some, it will likely be the opposite for others. For example, I know guys who in HS were precocious physically so tended to look older and therefore attract girls in our year or younger but nowadays couldn't pull a granny. However, there were guys who were that little bit more quiet, alternative, mostly not into sports and thus weren't seen to be as popular but once they went off to uni and escaped the bubble of HS, things became easier.

Now for guys moving into their 30's then this can go one of two ways broadly speaking. Either you're looking pretty burned out and old for your years which is quite possible if you were already growing a beard in HS or you are a slow burner who tends to come into your peak in your 30's in terms of physique and looks. Of course, if you have a decent job, life experience and a nice personality then things will be all the better for you.

Then there will always be guys who are just naturally successful with females for a whole variety of reasons - insanely good looks, great sense of humour or just something unique about them that draws a lady in - these guys are < 0.1% fortunately for the rest of us.

Personally, I've never had a major issue attracting females at any age and dated two of the hottest girls in my final year of HS and even turned down another hottie as she was best friends with an ex. I wasn't precocious but was pretty smart and hung about with a decent bunch of guys who treated girls with respect.

University was even better and it was pretty easy to get laid especially with our friend booze in your company.

However, for me, I seem to now becoming into my peak years at 31. Perhaps because I look pretty good for my age but possibly because I just don't put too much pressure or emphasis on it: go out with friends, have fun and if you get chatting then make the most of it.

It's the age old question really - how to pull women. No one guy has all the answers but for sure there are some pretty solid ground rules and it doesn't take much to get ahead of the field as most guys are pretty lousy.

Dress well, keep well groomed, keep in shape, don't take yourself too seriously (self deprication is a great tactic!), find common ground, treat the lady like an actual human being and never ever give the impression that you are desperate. Oh and for sure, get up and dance as no one likes that creepy guy standing at the back staring while furiously downing jaegers before hitting the floor like an elephant.

Happy hunting!

Nishinomiya wrote:

I am 55 and live in Japan and get flirted at very often by 20 year olds. It is strange those same girls wouldn't have given me a look 10 years ago. Unfortunately/fortunately I am married now so I have to resist the temptation.

Yeah, ten years ago those same girls were 10 years old. I really hope you weren't flirting with them...

I am getting close to 30 and despite my average appearance I have noticed I get more looks from attractive women than I used to (from a surprisingly wide age range). BUT I will also say that after college my standards have dropped some as well (which may contribute to the illusion of me getting more attention). In college we are surrounded by an insane amount of attractive women, standards are high. Those numbers don't exist in the world I'm in now. I might see one semi attractive girl at the gym or in passing at the store, but not five plus one super hot one just walking to class, then some more walking back to my car.

That's backwards. I've noticed the same increased attention from attractive women of many ages, but my standards have risen higher than ever. There may be fewer hotties than when I was in college, but now I have the confidence to get them. I don't settle for average looks anymore.

90% of women 40 and over and I would say about 70-80% of women over 35 look legit old... I'm a 34 year old guy.

Ha ha... I mean that same type of girls...not those exact girls :)

Is it normal to be physically repulsed by 90% of women older than 30? I'm 40 straight male.

Interesting and well written post. I have a question for you (if you have read any of my previous posts you know enough to be careful of any of my questions).You're 31, have you thought about meeting someone and being ready to move beyond the "pulling women" practice but really finding that one person that you engage on a deeper level. Someone that you trust completely and want to commit to taking the rest of life's journey together. (I didn't use the L word just because it would sound to mushy)Just curious.

Nahson wrote:

90% of women 40 and over and I would say about 70-80% of women over 35 look legit old... I'm a 34 year old guy.

WTF does "legit old" mean?

Do I think women (and men) should continue to take pride in their appearance, present themselves well, stay in shape and healthy? Yes. I know many, many women over 35 and 40 who do. Are you getting this statistic from people in a Wal-Mart or something?

I mean yeah, they do look "old" in the sense that they don't look 20. Are you seriously complaining that women haven't discovered the fountain of youth? Everyone ages, many women and men continue to stay in shape and present themselves well. If you don't think so, you need a new social circle.

I have this hunch that you're pissed off because women won't date you, and so you're calling them old.

I am in my forties, am very athletic and successful, and date women in their 20's, 30's and 40's. I appreciate the raw youthful incandescence of younger women as much as the perspective and good humor of well-evolved (and well-preserved) older women. Unfortunately for every one of the latter (who is also single) their are ten of the former (who is also single), so most of my women who I hook up with are in their 20's. If a woman in 40 and also fit, intelligent and great personality, she is very likely married (many of my woman friends).

This door swings both ways, but youthfulness is much more of an asset in woman than in men, whereas experience and confidence built from a lifetime of struggle and eventual success is irresistible in a man. It's simple biology. In my mind, any guy who marries before age 40 is likely not of high value, lives in a world of feminine scarcity, and will eventually pay the price, quite literally, for making a poor investment based on a lack of self-confidence. He may have a decent 10K PR though, since suffering and self-abnegation are the hallmarks of the betamale distance runner who self-flagellates in order to achieve some meager but tangible evidence of personal value.

Numbers Game wrote:

I am in my forties, am very athletic and successful, and date women in their 20's, 30's and 40's.

. In my mind, any guy who marries before age 40 is likely not of high value, lives in a world of feminine scarcity, and will eventually pay the price, quite literally, for making a poor investment based on a lack of self-confidence.

1/10 or if not a troll then

looking at relationships in strictly terms of a good or poor investment is not only kind of sad but explains why you are still single.

You do realize don't you that entering into a mutually loving relationship enhances your life in a very profound way.

[quote]Conundrum wrote:

Interesting and well written post. I have a question for you (if you have read any of my previous posts you know enough to be careful of any of my questions).

You're 31, have you thought about meeting someone and being ready to move beyond the "pulling women" practice but really finding that one person that you engage on a deeper level. Someone that you trust completely and want to commit to taking the rest of life's journey together. (I didn't use the L word just because it would sound to mushy)

Just curious. [quote]

Thanks! Of course I have and certainly I've had a few relationships over the years but just through various circumstances they've not got to that life partner stage. I'm sure it'll happen at some point but again I'm careful not to become desperate and settle as that'll cause more problems in the long run.

Furthermore, I strongly believe that as soon as a female smells desperation then it automatically acts as a repellant - how many guys have you met that pour their emotions out within 5 minutes of meeting a lady or start behaving like thier husband after a few dates. Keeping that little bit of mischief and intrigue without being a jerk or too elusive seems to work fairly well.

Thankfully nowadays there isn't the same rush and in some ways being a guy is very advantageous as our biological clock ticks slower in certain areas if you know what I mean. Sometimes it really is a man's world just so long as you appreciate the negatives as well as the positives.

It'll happen when it happens!