rojo wrote:
Ofcoursetheydo wrote:There's another dimension to this at some schools.
My female friend, lacrosse player from Baltimore, with a straight B average, interviewed at Stanford then went over and talked to the coach. Told him she didn't want an athletic scholarship.
Bingo.
What does Bingo mean? They took her.
At Stanford, I imagine the admissisons sports are more tightly controlled than the scholarships. Can you please explain what Bingo means?
OP, it's amazing to me that you don't think 4:12/9:08 is good. It's very good. HEre's an idea. 1) Go to an Ivy - they have need based aid.
2. Sit out a year and run unattached. Your run 4:01 and more people will be interested.
It's just tough. THere are what 12.5 scholarships for a whole track team?
Not a troll...I have however converted my marks (from trusted mark conversion tables) from other distances run to the traditional 1600/3200 (such as 3k/two mile & 1500/full mile) so some enterprising individual with dyestat wouldn't immediately identify me. But rest assured I've correctly investigated where my times would put me and the women's marks I've mentioned. And I know my marks are good...I was just pre-empting all the a$$ hats on here calling me a jealous, slow POS...surprise surprise. But that's why the scholarship market blows my mind.
My grades/test scores are OK with a decent resume...not good enough to get me in at Stanford/an Ivy...but really any public & most private DI's I've contacted I should be fine getting into with their help.
And my frustration actually has little to do with being able to afford college/get a scholarship/the "fairness" of it all. I know how the world works well enough by now... My parents are going to help and I know loans are just a reality in this day and age...and maybe I'll end up at one of those mid-majors in the middle of nowhere with a decent offer after my XC season is over (they're not offering peanuts I suppose). I also realize I come from a competitive state and good program that coaches aren't eager to recruit because "everyone from there runs fast."
It has far more to do with how oblivious my female counterparts are. Again and again, I see average women sign for some ginormous scholarship (that they think they obviously deserve) and then - often enough - check out, thinking they've reached their goals. They proceed to not progress any as a senior, get fat their first year of college, get hurt because they're partying too much/their bones can't support them any more and then wonder why the hell their coach is pissed at them when they're not producing. Maybe they get it together for their 2nd & 3rd year...but then "move on" & check out again by their 4th year. I'm told by other friends and teammates who've gone on to run DI that "every team has one of those" - meaning a woman on a full ride who has never competed for the team. And is apparently perfectly happy doing so. College coaches must just have to throw money at them and hope 1/3rd of them actually work out...
Yes, I realize men do this on occasion too...and I only have my anecdotal evidence from peers, friends and coaches...and you posters are free to rip me a part as some juvenile misogynist who doesn't "get it." But my experience has been that men who walk on often put far more into it than less talented/accomplished women who are getting big $$$. And it's frustrating when they don't realize the opportunity they have. Sure...that's life though...