People in my generation pull out their cell phones in restaurants. People of my parents' generation lit up cigarettes in restaurants. The former is slightly antisocial. The latter is so epically stupid that it defies all logic.
I'll take my generation's flaws over your generation's flaws any day.
jjjjj wrote:
Those people on the commuter train are reading about the world, among strangers on the way to work, not navel gazing.
People today use their phone to read the news and learn about world as well. Don't make the assumption that everyone on their phones are using it for navel gazing.
I see plenty of runners running together with headphones on and they're not just Millenials.
This is an abomination (Leviticus 26.2).
cell phones > cancer wrote:
People in my generation pull out their cell phones in restaurants. People of my parents' generation lit up cigarettes in restaurants. The former is slightly antisocial. The latter is so epically stupid that it defies all logic.
I'll take my generation's flaws over your generation's flaws any day.
I can't tell how old you are, but I suspect I'm older than your parents--I'm 57, as I say--and the generation you're talking about, the one that smoked en masse in restaurants, isn't your parents generation, or my generation, but MY parents' generation. My mom did that. Nobody I knew did that. So your chronology, which is to say your historical sense, is slightly off.
I'm at the very tail end of the boomers. Pre was born in 1951; I was born in 1958. You're talking about the Greatest Generation and the folks who fought in the Korean War. They all smoked. They smoked everywhere. They smoked on airplanes, for god's sake. But that's all been over for quite a while.
There's nothing wrong with pulling out a cell phone in a restaurant and responding to an emergency or confirming a date. Nor is there anything wrong with four young people pulling out laptops at a cafe and having a coding party.
There IS something sad about four young people apparently caring enough about each other to schedule an in-the-flesh meal at a restaurant and then spending the entire occasion checking email, scrolling through Tinder photos, and watching videos on tiny hand-held TVs. Meals with friends are for more than that.
Did you watch the video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OINa46HeWg8Or just watch The Matrix and think about what Neo is unplugging from. The brotherhood of Zion is open to you, too, my friend. Come have dinner with us sometime. :)
pop_pop!_v2.1 wrote:
KudzuRunner wrote:My question is, Why do four young people take the trouble of getting together at a restaurant if they're going to pay more attentions to their phones--and lots of other "people": FB "friends," YT vids, Instagram photos, Grinder pix, etc.--than to each other? Unless it's all just an excuse for a group selfie. What does that selfie actually memorialize? What, precisely, does the photo help them remember? That they were physically present but attentionally absentee?
Who are you to judge how people spend their time?
I'm not a fan of their choices either, but you cannot judge.
There is a difference between "judging," and having legitimate social criticism. This is something that irks me. Just because someone points out a (possibly) negative societal behavior, they are judging. Criticism of the behavior is just that: a statement about their *behavior*. Behavior and the inherent qualities of an individual are often two separate things; the world is gray, not black and white. No offense, but sometimes millennials seem incapable of nuance.
anapaix wrote:
who are you to judge others' pursuit of happiness? Mind your own business.
Who are you to judge him for judging someone else. Mind your own business!
Are you out of touch?
No! It's the children who are wrong!
Randy Oldman wrote:
I see plenty of runners running together with headphones on and they're not just Millenials.
This is an abomination (Leviticus 26.2).
26.2
I like it.
cell phones > cancer wrote:
People in my generation pull out their cell phones in restaurants. People of my parents' generation lit up cigarettes in restaurants. The former is slightly antisocial. The latter is so epically stupid that it defies all logic.
I'll take my generation's flaws over your generation's flaws any day.
You should go to some cafes in France, where people are smoking (albeit outside) AND using their phone.
Mind blown!
Ironically enough, it is often times adults who create what the children love... but yet, the adults are "out of touch".
gagage wrote:
http://cdn.athoughtfullife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/children-who-are-wrong.jpgAre you out of touch?
No! It's the children who are wrong!
gagage wrote:
http://cdn.athoughtfullife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/children-who-are-wrong.jpgAre you out of touch?
No! It's the children who are wrong!
I thought we were talking about millennials. Since when are twentysomethings "children"?
Stagger Lee wrote:
gagage wrote:http://cdn.athoughtfullife.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/children-who-are-wrong.jpgAre you out of touch?
No! It's the children who are wrong!
I thought we were talking about millennials. Since when are twentysomethings "children"?
"Millennial" refers to individuals born in the mid '80s through the early 2000s. People born at the tail end of that period are children. What aren't you understanding about this?
Millennials will be children forever. It's sad, really...
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. -Socrates (469–399 B.C.)
Stagger Lee wrote:
the world is gray, not black and white. No offense, but sometimes millennials seem incapable of nuance.
Says the world is gray and then in the next sentence labels a whole generation. How ironic.
Put down your GD mobile devices, people. It's no way to live. Gawd!
WhitePony wrote:
The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers. - any old men (from any time within Homo Sapiens era.)
Somewhat relevant:
Sorority girls at a baseball game
anapaix wrote:
who are you to judge others' pursuit of happiness? Mind your own business.
"I saw a booth at the restaurant with four Millennials on their phones paying no attention to each other."
Where is the OP judging, sounds like he/she is making an observation and simply commenting. What am I missing?
With that said, there is something to the OP's observation. I have noticed a generational lack of social skills in terms social graces. decorum, and conflict resolution, etc. There is also an increased level of rudeness especially in electronic communications, albeit I do find that some of the rudeness goes away in face to face communications. Btw, this is not an old timer on a high horse about the good old days, but the new generation can be absolutely brutal especially when they are anonymous.
Hypocrisy wrote:
Stagger Lee wrote:the world is gray, not black and white. No offense, but sometimes millennials seem incapable of nuance.
Says the world is gray and then in the next sentence labels a whole generation. How ironic.
sar·casm
ˈsärˌkazəm/
noun
the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
"his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment"
synonyms: derision, mockery, ridicule, scorn, sneering, scoffing; irony; cynicism
"well, it's easy to see that she got her biting sarcasm from her mother"
