Marathon pacing

Ok so McMillan says 3:02:21.... Can I shoot for a 3:07?? Go out in 7:07 to 7:10 pace?

I know it isn't the way to run a marathon but I guess I always think I should bank a little time. Don't wanna have to sprint that last mile or be tired anyway after being conservative. So... 3:07 might be a little safer then3:05. I wanna break 3:10 by a little too ensure a ticket to Boston

Slow down partner wrote:

Why go for 3:05 when you need 3:10? Get yourself one of these for 3:10 with a conserv start for your marathon. Helped me get my BQ. Keeps you from going out too fast.

http://findmymarathon.com/paceband-coursebased.php

Throwitdown wrote:

So u think I could go out with the3:05pacer?

+1

Don't go for 3:05 if all you want/need is 3:10. If you want to be a little safe, then go 3:09 pace.

What race is this?

Wineglass.

Throwitdown wrote:

Ok so McMillan says 3:02:21.... Can I shoot for a 3:07?? Go out in 7:07 to 7:10 pace?

I know it isn't the way to run a marathon but I guess I always think I should bank a little time. Don't wanna have to sprint that last mile or be tired anyway after being conservative. So... 3:07 might be a little safer then3:05. I wanna break 3:10 by a little too ensure a ticket to Boston

Wineglass is 34 days away, so you still have a couple tune up races to go. Just chill and see how those go, then worry about your pace. Assuming all goes well...

...If your goal is a do-or-die time like a BQ, just shoot for that time exactly minus 1 or 2 minutes, to allow for an unexpected pee break, aid station screw up (dropped cup, had to go back), or the course being a bit longer than your GPS watch says. If you blow up at this pace you can't say that you went out too fast. You went out as fast as you needed to go to hit your goal and it was too fast for you. Plus, if it is a touch too conservative, you'll definitely know it during the last 10K and you can pick it up and reel in the fish (lots of fun).

Good luck.

Thanks bro! Finally some positive encouragement on this site. Good Lord.

Speaking of watches jus bought the new 225 seems pretty spot on. Think I'll take ur advice and shoot for 7:11-7:13 pace try and throw down the hammer on the last 10k if it's there lol.

The marathon really isn't my specialty but I have a bucket list goal to run Boston.

Also I'm praying for a 30-40 degree start at Wineglass.

Good Lord is right...you got the same good advice from no less than 6-7 different people. Did you even read the responses?

Maybe you are little wound up?

Seriously though...good luck!!

I read the responses and picked the best one. I'm definitely wound up. I'm inn a mid life crisis. I'm not overly happy with my profession, I have a lot of regret not doing things I should've done with my life, not applying myself enough in school. So maybe jus once,jus once it would be nice for me to prove to myself that I can do somethin if I put my mind to it, and I'll admit it I'm afraid of failure like I feel like everyday of my life. This may not make sense to a lot of ppl but it's how I feel.

are you 38?

Throwitdown wrote:

Max HR was 182 I believe.

Maybe maybe not

I understand...and I feel your pain.

It will be OK. Just see it through and do your best.

If you can run a little less encumbered by rigid expectations, you'll actually perform much better. You would think that holding yourself to a high standard would drive you to perform better, but it usually doesn't. Instead, it just creates overreaching, dissatisfaction and a feeling of failure. So try to ease up on yourself...if you can.

The marathon is a tough enough experience. You don't need your entire sense of self-worth riding on it...if that makes sense.

Trust me...I'm old...

All the best...

Yea I'll try to. I know if I'm not having fun I should jus quit this all together but here I am.

Anyways I feel like a lot of ppl in my town are counting on me making it cuz it's all I talk about day and night running. My small town hasn't had a male make it to Boston inn over 20yrs that I know of. It would be quite the honor to Get there. Thanks for listening.

Mrate wrote:

are you 38?

No he's definitely 86.

I feel your pain bro...

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=6692537

Throwitdown wrote:

I read the responses and picked the best one. I'm definitely wound up. I'm inn a mid life crisis. I'm not overly happy with my profession, I have a lot of regret not doing things I should've done with my life, not applying myself enough in school. So maybe jus once,jus once it would be nice for me to prove to myself that I can do somethin if I put my mind to it, and I'll admit it I'm afraid of failure like I feel like everyday of my life. This may not make sense to a lot of ppl but it's how I feel.

Good for you. It's never too late to make a positive change in your life.

I just hope that you are enjoying the process of training. If you don't enjoy the process, the results may leave you dissatisfied, another regret to add to your list.

No way you're going to make it to Boston. You'll be stuck in that small town and work at the mill all your life just like your father did.

Throwitdown wrote:

Wineglass.

Fast course, you'll do well.

Throwitdown wrote:

Yea I'll try to. I know if I'm not having fun I should jus quit this all together but here I am.

Anyways I feel like a lot of ppl in my town are counting on me making it cuz it's all I talk about day and night running. My small town hasn't had a male make it to Boston inn over 20yrs that I know of. It would be quite the honor to Get there. Thanks for listening.

Is that you Barney from Mayberry? ??

This is terrible advice for the marathon and I suspect the OP is trolling. If so, you got me. You are either in shape to run 3:10 or you are not. Wishing yourself to the finish line by hammering as far as you can at your goal pace will not work. Building a buffer like that will just make it worse. The first post indicates you ran a 17 mile race. Congratulations on that! There are plenty of ways to triangulate your marathon fitness/pace and this is not one of them.

Ok so what pace do u recommend.?? U do realize it could be 30 at race start for Wineglass??

Should feel a lot easier then some training runs correct? Esp with taper.

Also no 3:10 pacer for this race..