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What I didn't say before but should have: in addition to all the other advice and commentary: good luck.
employer of people wrote:
Your Best Interests wrote:Don't resign. If they fire you then there's money in it for you. If you resign, there isn't. Can you think of any benefit to resigning before they can fire you? I can't.
Most employment applications I've filled out have asked if I've ever been fired from a job.
Who on Earth would anyone reply honestly? Former employers do not discuss former employees for liability reasons. So, unless your firing made the front page on buzzfeed, no one knows.
I'd be very surprised if they fired you.
If you are in a place where you are fearing for your job, it's either time to go, or time to change your work habits. It is one or the other. Take action.
pop_pop! wrote:
employer of people wrote:Most employment applications I've filled out have asked if I've ever been fired from a job.
Who on Earth would anyone reply honestly? Former employers do not discuss former employees for liability reasons. So, unless your firing made the front page on buzzfeed, no one knows.
I'd be very surprised if they fired you.
If you are in a place where you are fearing for your job, it's either time to go, or time to change your work habits. It is one or the other. Take action.
THIS: Former employers do not discuss former employees for liability reasons.
They can verify your work dates and that's all, so come up with a good story about why you left your last job, ie: they were downsizing so ......
ScaryStuff wrote:
THIS: Former employers do not discuss former employees for liability reasons.
They can verify your work dates and that's all, so come up with a good story about why you left your last job, ie: they were downsizing so ......
Not necessarily true. Some employers don't know the nuances of the law or don't keep the documentation necessary to support claims, so they simply don't discuss anything about former employees to ensure that they don't accidentally say something they shouldn't. But there is no reason that a former employer could not tell a prospective employer that they fired you, so long as they could document that this claim was actually true.
Also, lying on your application is grounds for termination at any point during your employment.
the REAL Hingle McCringleberry wrote:
Quit on pure hate.
You mean he should fart on his boss in the meeting?
If you leave, you don't get severance pay. Get fired, you get a stack of checks for about 6 weeks severance pay.
Wow! Some really bad advice here. No one down the road is going to care if you were fired. Hell, I've been fired from every job I've ever had. They say the average job lasts about 2 or 3 years now. If you quit, you will not receive unemployment. He set up the meeting so you would sweat for a few days. Why give him that kind of power? Don't worry about it. Go to the meeting. If he fires you say, "Thank you for the opportunity to work here. I really appreciate it." Then go down and collect your unemployment. After you reorient yourself (a few weeks), then decide if you need to go back and sue his ass or if it was all your own fault. Make corrections where necessary.
employer of people wrote:
Your Best Interests wrote:Don't resign. If they fire you then there's money in it for you. If you resign, there isn't. Can you think of any benefit to resigning before they can fire you? I can't.
Most employment applications I've filled out have asked if I've ever been fired from a job. Probably best to avoid having a red flag in your future applications if you know you'll be fired if you don't resign.
That said, in my experience most employers will try to work things out amicably. The only people I've ever seen get fired in the "here's a box for your stuff, this gentleman from security will see you out" fashion have been employees whose issues exceeded mere poor performance. Unless somebody is harming employee morale or inviting a lawsuit or something like that, I will always give them the opportunity to wind down their employment somewhat on their own terms.
The conversation would be along the lines of "you're not the right guy for this job. It's probably time to start thinking about moving into something that better fits your skills. Here are some ideas about some places you might look. Please feel free to talk to anyone in the company about ideas/contacts that might help you get into a position that is a better fit." If that talk doesn't produce results, I may ask them to set a date to work toward for their departure. Only if they really drag their feet on finding a new opportunity would I be forced to fire them.
I'm in a pretty tough industry, so it's not like I do this because I'm soft-hearted. It's just better for everyone to have a planned departure instead of a "here's a box for your stuff" style firing. I'd guess that the OP's boss feels the same way, and that the conversation will be more along the lines of "please start to look for other opportunities" than "you're finished today."
Fat Boy wrote:
No one down the road is going to care if you were fired. Hell, I've been fired from every job I've ever had. They say the average job lasts about 2 or 3 years now. If you quit, you will not receive unemployment. He set up the meeting so you would sweat for a few days. Why give him that kind of power? Don't worry about it. Go to the meeting. If he fires you say, "Thank you for the opportunity to work here. I really appreciate it." Then go down and collect your unemployment.
Forget the suing part though.
Just get your checks, find something else and move on.
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Fat Boy wrote:No one down the road is going to care if you were fired. Hell, I've been fired from every job I've ever had. They say the average job lasts about 2 or 3 years now. If you quit, you will not receive unemployment. He set up the meeting so you would sweat for a few days. Why give him that kind of power? Don't worry about it. Go to the meeting. If he fires you say, "Thank you for the opportunity to work here. I really appreciate it." Then go down and collect your unemployment.
Forget the suing part though.
Just get your checks, find something else and move on.
wait, what, who's suing who?
I used to work in HR - Here's what you do: Let your boss talk. Don't say a word. If he asks if you know what the meeting is about, just smile and say, "no sir." You know nothing about why you are being let go - Don't admit to anything! If he give you reasons for your dismissal just say, "I'm very sorry to hear that." Don't get defensive. Don't resign - let him terminate you. If he does, thank him for the opportunity to work with him, say you learned a lot of things, and ask for a good reference for your job hunting efforts. If you are polite and not a jerk, he'll say yes. Then collect unemployment. Don't say you were fired on any future employment applications. Say you were let go. If they press you for a reason, you can say your position changed and was no longer a match for your skill set which is true when you think about it. If you leave quietly and politely, they will be glad to say decent things about you. I wouldn't worry about a bad reference - companies are scared sh*tless to say anything due to it biting them in the butt. If you broke the law and they let you go for that, they will definitely say that but if it's for simple non-performance, they won't say anything bad about you. And good luck!
Sean Lawn wrote:
Manager is calling me in for a meeting on Thursday for a meeting with me and I think I'm going to get fired.
About a month ago my manager warned me about customer complaints that may lead to disciplinary action.
What should I do? Resign or just wait to be fired?
If it's a possibility, how much sense would it make to write up a resignation letter for Thursday just in case?
It's Friday !
tomorrow is going to be EPIC!
employer of people wrote:
I'm in a pretty tough industry, so it's not like I do this because I'm soft-hearted. It's just better for everyone to have a planned departure instead of a "here's a box for your stuff" style firing.
Seconded.
Especially true in smaller companies, or teams where you have quite a specific role. Three months is long enough both for you to find a job, and for the employer to get someone in and have a decent handover. Two weeks or a month's notice usually is not.
Are you Paula Radcliffe?
So are you fired or?
well????
Did you get sh*t canned?!
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