It's hilarious that this is what you think people other than workaholics do. "nothing to show for it"...besides those women you want.[/quote]
busting my arse wrote:
than waste my money going out drinking every night and then have nothing to show for it. I would rather work extra when needed and get that promotion (which I've gotten several times) than bust out early just to watch a few extra hours of TV.
busting my arse wrote:TAA wrote:I've already explained why liking a guy purely for entertainment is unwise, even though I think it should be common sense. Clearly you're an incredible dunce.busting my arse wrote:Yah because finding a man she enjoys being around is SOOO shortsighted. It's such a shock that you can't keep a woman. You're obviously not going to listen. I'm outTAA wrote:I have plenty of success on the short game. That's not the problem. The problem is finding a girl who isn't shortsighted who appreciates someone with long term goals.busting my arse wrote:It's hilarious that this is what you think people other than workaholics do. "nothing to show for it"...besides those women you want.
than waste my money going out drinking every night and then have nothing to show for it. I would rather work extra when needed and get that promotion (which I've gotten several times) than bust out early just to watch a few extra hours of TV.
busting my arse wrote:agip wrote:I get that, agip. However, I'm 26. I'm still in the phase where I'm building my career. I'm thinking 5-10 years down the road. I don't plan on putting work above everything else the rest of my life. I've just been given a huge opportunity in the last few months and I'm jumping at it. I've been given a chance. It's a huge opportunity to prove myself, make connections, and move myself permanently into a higher tier. I'm making almost three times as much as I was two years ago and have a lot of responsibility. So far I have pulled my weight and then some. Meanwhile, one of my coworkers in a similar position has faltered due to not really caring, leaving early, etc, and he is about to be fired. Please tell me you understand?
I'm an old so this game is decades behind me, but....
in a long term relationship, women want to be #1 in a man's attentions. They want him to be completely carried away by her in all things.
They certainly don't want to be #2 to a job.
If they sense the guy cares more about his career than her, she will be out of there...unless she is out golddigging. But that is a different issue.
So maybe what you are missing here is that yeah, they get bored of you after a few months not because you aren't 'fun' enough...but because you clearly aren't putting them #1 in your life.
My issue is that even when I explain the above to girls, they still think I should be spending hours every single day with them just doing such trivial things as listening to them gab for literally hours. These girls also tend to work at coffee shops or in retail, which isn't surprising to me. While there are driven women out there, they are by no means the norm.
busting my arse wrote:runDirtyrun wrote:You don't know me. Being a great listener is precisely why so many people like me. I've been told that numerous times. If you understood anything that's been written you wouldn't make such ignorant proclamations.busting my arse wrote:These other posters have your number and you are too fascinated with yourself to see it.agip wrote:I get that, agip. However, I'm 26. I'm still in the phase where I'm building my career. I'm thinking 5-10 years down the road. I don't plan on putting work above everything else the rest of my life. I've just been given a huge opportunity in the last few months and I'm jumping at it. I've been given a chance. It's a huge opportunity to prove myself, make connections, and move myself permanently into a higher tier. I'm making almost three times as much as I was two years ago and have a lot of responsibility.[/quote]
I'm an old so this game is decades behind me, but....
in a long term relationship, women want to be #1 in a man's attentions. They want him to be completely carried away by her in all things.
They certainly don't want to be #2 to a job.
If they sense the guy cares more about his career than her, she will be out of there...unless she is out golddigging. But that is a different issue.
So maybe what you are missing here is that yeah, they get bored of you after a few months not because you aren't 'fun' enough...but because you clearly aren't putting them #1 in your life.
Haha. The "huge opportunity." I think I've heard this story before. It involves a carrot that is juuust out of reach and you are completely emotionally invested.
Just put that money away while you sacrifice everything else. That's the only permanent higher tier there ever will be. Ever.
busting my arse wrote:My issue is that even when I explain the above to girls, they still think I should be spending hours every single day with them just doing such trivial things as listening to them gab for literally hours. These girls also tend to work at coffee shops or in retail, which isn't surprising to me. While there are driven women out there, they are by no means the norm.
#1 I don't know a girl that doesn't want someone that listens. You don't do that.
#2 Those "driven women" you imagine exist and guess what? They still want to come home for a few hours and have someone listen to them.
You got no long game. None. Zero. It will never work out for you and your hard working bros until you learn that simple fact.
Jamin joined the party with his wisdom on women - lovin' it.
busting my arse wrote:
I'm betting you're a real winner. Your kids will probably love having a father unable to provide for them.
busting my arse wrote:Guy O'Leighken wrote:So according to you and others here, the only way to be a good listener and/or in a relationship is to sit quietly for 2+ hours every single night as your s/o talks non-stop about nothing significant 99% of the time. You've disqualified yourself from being taken seriously and have proven yourself to be a loser. No successful or interesting person would waste so much time doing something so meaningless, and that goes for guys and girls. Apparently you've never been with anyone who isn't an airhead.
I'll bet some people got the mistaken impression that you're not a good listener from your comment:
"My issue is that even when I explain the above to girls, they still think I should be spending hours every single day with them just doing such trivial things as listening to them gab for literally hours."
Dead on, man. This brought to mind the Jungian archetypes (anima/animus, shadow, Self): "every personification of the unconscious - the shadow, the anima, the animus, and the Self - has both a light and a dark aspect....the anima and animus have dual aspects: They can bring life-giving development and creativeness to the personality, or they can cause petrification and physical death."
jamin wrote:vivalarepublica wrote:You needed to read the thread to figure that out? You must be new to this forum. Everyone here has an outward superiority complex to try and mask their inner inferiority complex.
I only read the first page of this thread, but OP, you seem to think that you are better than people. .
Dude, you missed the boat already. Assuming you went to college, your best bet for finding a marriageable spouse who generally shares your values was while you were in school, or (re-)connecting with a classmate relatively soon after you graduated. Your next shot is grad school, if you're planning to go. If not, you're probably out of luck. Of course, from the tenor and content of your post, you were probably doomed from the start. Life is about more than work and "connections". The sooner you recognize that, the better. Good luck...I think you're going to need it.
busting my arse wrote:
I'm 26 and typically date girls in the 20-29 range. So far it seems like all girls care about is whether the guy is "fun" or not. I've seen this even with a close female friend of mine who is 29. She broke up with a truly great guy who had a lot going for him to be with this doofus just because he was a bit more "exciting." Nevermind the guy she broke up with had a better career, more money, was more experienced in life, less dramatic and lower maintenance, and was better liked by pretty much everyone.
I see this sort of stuff with myself too. I've been working my arse off the last 7 years and have really built my way up so far, gained a ton of life experience, etc, and I'm still working my way up, yet girls don't seem to appreciate any of it. I have no problem attracting girls, but they tend to get bored after a bit since I'm very career oriented and make that my first priority in life. They don't understand why I would rather work late and save the day for my company and make connections instead of cutting out early and getting drunk instead. It seems very immature and short-sighted to me.
At what age do women start to appreciate guys for the hard work they've put in and where they're at in life? 30?
You understand the situation well.
Guy O'Leighken wrote:
This is how you describe talking to the women you want to be with? And you can't figure out why they don't want to be around you? I'm just trying to understand the situation.busting my arse wrote:Guy O'Leighken wrote:So according to you and others here, the only way to be a good listener and/or in a relationship is to sit quietly for 2+ hours every single night as your s/o talks non-stop about nothing significant 99% of the time. You've disqualified yourself from being taken seriously and have proven yourself to be a loser. No successful or interesting person would waste so much time doing something so meaningless, and that goes for guys and girls. Apparently you've never been with anyone who isn't an airhead.
I'll bet some people got the mistaken impression that you're not a good listener from your comment:
"My issue is that even when I explain the above to girls, they still think I should be spending hours every single day with them just doing such trivial things as listening to them gab for literally hours."
He's not making crazy-mad money. Otherwise he'd have the golddiggers after him. He's been promised more money than he's ever imagined just like every other thousandaire and their IPO shares.
Ghhjhhh wrote:
I think something here is amiss. There are tons of guys that care way more about their careers than women and bang many hot girls that wish they could tie him down.
OP, are you sure you aren't getting needy with these girls? Remember the girl ties you down, the other way around is massively unattractive