Great question. You would think even without EPO the Chinese women would have been still at the elite level or close to it so I do not understand is why there have not been any Chinese women at the elite level since the early 90s. Perhaps they were on a combination of things. Steroids work for women in middle distance so perhaps a combination of the two and some undiscovered miracle drug. Wow it certainly worked.
ijenns318 wrote:
... I doubt she could be the best 800m runner in the world off of her current fitness because she has no experience in the event. I doubt she would run faster than like 1:56. She lacks the raw speed.
LOL - 1:56 would make her the best in the world, in a dead heat with Eunice Sum who occasionally runs 1:56 when in peak form.
You guys arguing about predictions sound ridiculous.
Obviously equivalency tables aren't designed with the idea that you can input a time and predict exactly what the athlete would run at other distances.
But, since they DO provide equivalent performances at those other distances they can be used as the starting point for *drumroll* predictions!
What the hell else are you even using them for anyway? Stop acting like there is some big important difference between these two things, children.
the letter why wrote:
What the hell else are you even using them for anyway? Stop acting like there is some big important difference between these two things, children.
What else? Um how about what they are - competitive equivalency? They are used to see who is better in different events. Ie, is Dibaba better than Usain Bolt?
There is a big important difference between the two. Or do you really expect Dibaba to run a 10 second 100m time?
I don't understand why it is so hard for you guys to understand this after it has been pointed out over and over on this thread.
klubkip1 wrote:
Steroids work for women in middle distance so perhaps a combination of the two and some undiscovered miracle drug. Wow it certainly worked.
Steroids work for men in middle distance also.
Why has no one brought up the fact that Krato looked like a damn gorilla? She had biceps bigger than my head, hair under her pits, and she absolutely crushed anyone who attempted to race hi- 'her' in the 800 meters. If you don't think she was (heavily) on the sauce then you're just a fool.
Now, that being said, if Dibaba wanted to beat that WR she'd have to be doping, there's no way her natural talent alone is enough to beat Kratos AndroGel or whatever testosterone booster she was rubbing on her hairy chest. And when I say Dibaba would have to dope, I don't mean some measly micro-dosing, I'm talking full-on, blatant masculine features like Krato had.
Unfortunately, we will never see any woman even come close to that record.
/eot.
kod3200 wrote:
Why has no one brought up the fact that Krato looked like a damn gorilla? She had biceps bigger than my head, hair under her pits, and she absolutely crushed anyone who attempted to race hi- \'her\' in the 800 meters. If you don\'t think she was (heavily) on the sauce then you\'re just a fool.
Now, that being said, if Dibaba wanted to beat that WR she\'d have to be doping, there\'s no way her natural talent alone is enough to beat Kratos AndroGel or whatever testosterone booster she was rubbing on her hairy chest. And when I say Dibaba would have to dope, I don\'t mean some measly micro-dosing, I\'m talking full-on, blatant masculine features like Krato had.
Unfortunately, we will never see any woman even come close to that record.
/eot.
This post says more about your ignorance than it does about \"Krato\". Believe it or not, women actually do naturally grow lots of hair on their armpits, legs, and sometimes chest. Perhaps if you worked out more, the your muscles would be just as big.
I agree with the poster who said OP is a dweeb.
Having said that, I think we need to keep in mind that she basically closed her WR in 2:00 or 2:01. Therefore she must be one of the best 800m runners in the world at the moment, although she may not have the finishing speed to actually win any races. I doubt she can set a world record since she's basically never run the event before and I don't think she's on the right kind of drugs, but based on the way she ran the 1500m (people aren't even talking about how astonishingly unevenly it was paced) I'm not going to completely rule it out.
the African queen wrote:
Marta L wrote:In my years as an athlete, coach, and track official I have NEVER seen such a blatant cheat.
Anyone who believes Dibaba is clean shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Have you previously established yourself as an athlete, coach and track official on this forum, i.e. provided evidence?
What nationality are you?
Anyone who makes this type of statement, "Anyone who believes Dibaba is clean shouldn't be allowed to vote.", is simply foolish, but can still keep his/her constitutional right to vote, except for convicted felons, of course.
Thanks for the good post. Glad someone like Marta was finally called out. Anyone who says that people who disagree with them shouldn't be able to vote...what is there even to say?
Also, people are innocent until proven guilty in this sport and in the eyes of the law. I'm sick of the constant doping accusations against everyone, not just Dibaba.
sadgsadfd wrote:
and I don't think she's on the right kind of drugs
Go soak your head.
Kenry wrote:
kod3200 wrote:Why has no one brought up the fact that Krato looked like a damn gorilla? She had biceps bigger than my head, hair under her pits, and she absolutely crushed anyone who attempted to race hi- 'her' in the 800 meters. If you don't think she was (heavily) on the sauce then you're just a fool.
Now, that being said, if Dibaba wanted to beat that WR she'd have to be doping, there's no way her natural talent alone is enough to beat Kratos AndroGel or whatever testosterone booster she was rubbing on her hairy chest. And when I say Dibaba would have to dope, I don't mean some measly micro-dosing, I'm talking full-on, blatant masculine features like Krato had.
Unfortunately, we will never see any woman even come close to that record.
/eot.
This post says more about your ignorance than it does about "Krato". Believe it or not, women actually do naturally grow lots of hair on their armpits, legs, and sometimes chest. Perhaps if you worked out more, the your muscles would be just as big.
Don´t be too harsh on the guy. He is a Letsrunner, so he has probably never seen an adult woman without clothes.
Sure they probably do but just not as well. Women do not have the natural strength men have to convert their 400m speed into 800m speed. Thats why the correlation between 400m PB and eventual 800m times is different between men and women. Women give away a lot more time over there 400m PB per lap of the 800m compared to men.
kod3200 wrote:
Unfortunately, we will never see any woman even come close to that record.
/eot.
Jelimo got very close not so long time ago. Kratochvilova herself was sure then that Jelimo would break her record next season