First 400m @ 60.31, 300m recovery @ 48 sec (400m @ 64 sec pace) then 800m @2:01.7 pace
From Dibaba herself, "I have been dreaming of an outdoor world record for ever. Now I want them all: the 1500m, the 5000m, even the 800m."
http://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-diamond-league/news/genzebe-dibaba-1500m-world-record
3:50 is a great WR for Dibaba. I hope she goes for the 800m as well. Should be close to 1:53 with some good pacing and conditions.
In my years as an athlete, coach, and track official I have NEVER seen such a blatant cheat.
Anyone who believes Dibaba is clean shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Oh, and I do believe she could get the 800 meter "world record."
Dopers have superhuman distance ranges, well outside the capabilities of clean athletes. Look at the East Germans who could sprint world-class times in the 200 and also run around 1:55 for the 8. Look at the Chinese women running 800 through 10000. Look at Rashid Ramzi, an 800/1500 guy who managed to pop a 13:10 in his one and only 5000. Mary "Testo" Decker ran 800 through the marathon. Flojo thought her doping could carry her upwards into distance records, but she was too old before any serious attempts were made.
Dibaba has what it takes to rewrite the history books - a huge natural talent with shady drug-peddling coaches and agents, a country of origin where virtually no testing occurs, an impotent IAAF who sees it in their best interests to sell tickets rather than bust dopers, and a huge group of apologist fans cheering her on.
No.
She is much better off not running the 800.
However I'm sure she can break 14 minutes for 5000 meters.
Marta L wrote:
Oh, and I do believe she could get the 800 meter "world record."
Dopers have superhuman distance ranges, well outside the capabilities of clean athletes. Look at the East Germans who could sprint world-class times in the 200 and also run around 1:55 for the 8. Look at the Chinese women running 800 through 10000. Look at Rashid Ramzi, an 800/1500 guy who managed to pop a 13:10 in his one and only 5000. Mary "Testo" Decker ran 800 through the marathon. Flojo thought her doping could carry her upwards into distance records, but she was too old before any serious attempts were made.
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You just have no knowledge of how running works. Any balanced 800m or miler can perform OK at a wide range of distances. Alan Webb has the same range and times as Ramzi. It's rare because people don't usually attempt to compete in more than 1 event not because they are incapable of it.
Wang Junxia's fastest 800 was 1:58, granted she had much more stamina over distance - and less speed - than Dibaba.
Junxia Qu's fastest 800 was 1:56.24 and she excelled at it.
I thought she'd run 1:55.
Apparently not but did run a 2:24 marathon.
Marta L wrote:
Dopers have superhuman distance ranges, well outside the capabilities of clean athletes. Look at the East Germans who could sprint world-class times in the 200 and also run around 1:55 for the 8. Look at the Chinese women running 800 through 10000.
This stupidity was written already a few days ago. Can just back up this by a single name?
Do you mean Heike Drechsler with 2:11.53?
Or Sigrun Wodars with 24.36?
And "the Chinese women"? Besides Wang Junxia, who ran 800 through 10000? Just curious.
I don't know who looks stupider: the Dibaba shills or the Bolt shills.
Marta L wrote:
In my years as an athlete, coach, and track official I have NEVER seen such a blatant cheat.
Anyone who believes Dibaba is clean shouldn't be allowed to vote.
Have you previously established yourself as an athlete, coach and track official on this forum, i.e. provided evidence?
What nationality are you?
Anyone who makes this type of statement, "Anyone who believes Dibaba is clean shouldn't be allowed to vote.", is simply foolish, but can still keep his/her constitutional right to vote, except for convicted felons, of course.
No.
She'd be fast though. But honestly, as a 5000 specialist, and a world class miler, no need to get distracted running an 800.
These conversion tables or whatever you guys are using are so stupid. I doubt she could be the best 800m runner in the world off of her current fitness because she has no experience in the event. I doubt she would run faster than like 1:56. She lacks the raw speed.
safrazap wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:230 x (8/15)^1.135 ~ 112.7
1.135 reliably converts between distances from 600m through 3000m.
3:50 for 1500m equals 8:25 for 3000m? definitely way out
I meant 600m through mile.
Not sure of her getting the record because I doubt she has the 400m speed but she could just be like Said Aouita and certainly threaten to win against the best in the world. Just that she will not be running 800m at Championship level.
safrazap wrote:
And "the Chinese women"? Besides Wang Junxia, who ran 800 through 10000? Just curious.
Wang was not fast enough to run the 800.
However, several of the others in the group certainly were.
Liu Dong ran the Chinese record of 1:55:54. Her best 1500 was 3:56.31 but probably could have approached 3:50 with a fast pace all the way. Ma stopped her from the record attempt and had her pace it instead due to a personal disagreement.
J.R. wrote:
safrazap wrote:And "the Chinese women"? Besides Wang Junxia, who ran 800 through 10000? Just curious.
Wang was not fast enough to run the 800.
However, several of the others in the group certainly were.
Liu Dong ran the Chinese record of 1:55:54. Her best 1500 was 3:56.31 but probably could have approached 3:50 with a fast pace all the way. Ma stopped her from the record attempt and had her pace it instead due to a personal disagreement.
What were the Chinese on, by the way? EPO?
my cat is my daughter wrote:
J.R. wrote:Wang was not fast enough to run the 800.
However, several of the others in the group certainly were.
Liu Dong ran the Chinese record of 1:55:54. Her best 1500 was 3:56.31 but probably could have approached 3:50 with a fast pace all the way. Ma stopped her from the record attempt and had her pace it instead due to a personal disagreement.
What were the Chinese on, by the way? EPO?
Remember JR doesn't believe drugs work so that's irrelevant.
Dibaba will set the WR. She's much like Cram and Aoutia in 800 ability.
my cat is my daughter wrote:
What were the Chinese on, by the way? EPO?
They were on hard training and mental toughness, something that is foreign to lazy Americans, who have to have excuses for everything because they're too lazy to get up off their butts.
J.R. wrote:
my cat is my daughter wrote:What were the Chinese on, by the way? EPO?
They were on hard training and mental toughness, something that is foreign to lazy Americans, who have to have excuses for everything because they're too lazy to get up off their butts.
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