Best Universities w/ Business Program and Middle Distance

American University...strong middle distance program that is getting better every year

Georgetown

definitely Michigan.

I'm in the Business School and it's great!

According to US News & World Reports, here are the top undergrad business programs.

1. University of Pennsylvania (Wharton) 4.8

2. Massachusetts Inst. of Technology (Sloan) 4.7

3. University of Michigan?Ann Arbor * 4.6

4. University of California?Berkeley (Haas) * 4.5

5. U. of North Carolina?Chapel Hill (Kenan-Flagler) * 4.3

University of Virginia (McIntire) * 4.3

I aplyed to thos scools, but cudnt get admited.

for those keeping score at home, both Burley and Robin were 1:53-1:54 guys before they came to Penn -- and ended up 1:47.1 and we all know Sam's performance. Robin would have been there but he didn't run his senior year for personal reasons (even so if he hadn't been cut off at 1998 NCAA he had a chance to beat Krum and Robinson). Powell lives and breathes the mid-distances. He is the USATF middle distance development coordinator -- not Warhurst. He was USTCA Mid-Atlantic coach of the year last year. He takes aspiring 800 and 1500 runners from around the nation to Europe every summer.

Michigan is a tremendous combination of track talent and academic reputation in business. However, please do not throw out Penn, at the least go for a visit and talk to Powell. The business school is unparalled and the track program is excellent. Big Ten public schools are nice, but why not attend the best ?

Take a look at Saint Joseph's in Philadelphia. They have a great business program (especially Food Marketing). They also have a very strong track program. The kid mentioned earlier from UNC (who ran 1:53 this weekend) is Andy Craycraft who xferred there from SJU (he wanted more of big school experience). Too bad since he ran 1:48 as a soph. last year under head coach Mike Glavin. They've got plenty more guns and just this weekend ran 3:13 for the 4 x 400 indoors and will run quick 4X8 and DMRs and hold their own against many of the previously mentioned 'large' programs.

So he is the USAF Middle distance development coordinator...that doesn't mean a thing. Plus Robin wanted to transfer from Penn...he even took a visit to Michigan while considering it.

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No matter where you go, it is going to be your college coach, not not your current coach, who is going to be dictating your training. I don't think that is a good or bad thing, it is just what it is.

I agree with those advocating Michigan. University of Virginia is other good option. Not as strong of a team as Michigan, but it is good and has a top 5 undergrad business school. Georgetown has a strong undergrad b-school as well as a strong middle distance squad. Villanova is another option. Not sure how good their business school is, but I would imagine pretty good. Someone mentioned UPenn. Obviously a great school. But I think you would get a much better college experience (more fun) at a school like Virginia or Michigan. Plus, there are a lot more hot chicks! Also, they are much more reasonable. If I was going to do it over again, I would have gone to one of those instead of a private school.

Something else I have learned post-college is that you do not need to have studied finance or accounting undergrad to get a good business job. Going to a school with a strong economic program will usually get you there just as well. I don't think that would have changed anything for me since I liked finance, but it is something you might want to keep in mind.

The University of Kansas sounds like it would fit you nice. The focus there is on middle distance runners. They have a slew of sophomores on down who are sun 1:52 guys and are developing quickly. At the same time we have post collegiate guys still training here which says a lot about the program. Charlie Grubber still works directly with the distance runners on a daily bases. Also Calvin Davis ('96 silver medalist in 400h) trains with the Jayhawks. Not only is the running good but so is the business school. One of the top 25 public business schools in the nation. Many of the current athletes are business school students making it that much easier on yourself when you go through it. Belive me it helps a lot when you know people who have taken the classes and had the instructors to help with tests and studying. Consider the Jayhawks

Dude,

You're a joke. Face up to the truth now before the truth stares you down when your all grown up. A good school is a good school. If you don't want to run track, then don't run track....best way to avoid overuse.

Circus freak, I'll call you. The little circus freak who wants to turn a profit on his act.

Cool

Well... if I'm not mistaken the reigning NCAA 1500 champ, Gabe Jennings, Michael Stember, Jonathan Riley and many other great runners came from a school often considered one of the best undergraduate schools in the nation. I am studying with professors who have spent years in consulting and banking, manufacturing and other aspects of business. We also have over 20 different entrepreneurial and business clubs for a relatively small undergraduate body. You can take classes through the top Business school in the nation and network with hundreds of top companies that actively recruit Stanford students and attend lectures at Stanford. If you really want the best, there is only one place to go.

Look at Miami (Ohio) University

One of the most beautiful campuses in the country.

A b-school ranked in the top tier (undergraduate)

excellent middle distance program. (current best guy ran 1:54 in hs, currently running 1:49 at a jr.)

many of the schools mentioned here are tops in graduate business school rankings, not undergraduate.

good coaching

excellent conference (central mich and eastern mich always have 1:48-1:50 guys).

good luck

actually it does help that Powell is USATF mid-distance coordinator. Powell knows a vast majority of the middle distance talent in the US on a first name basis, which means he gets to talk to people all over and discuss training methods etc more so than your average coach. all of the guys mentioned he has personally taken over to Europe in the summer

as for the amazing talent Robin Martin, I don't know him that well (don't want to speculate - ha !) but I can assure you his thoughts on transferring were not related to his track experience at Penn

really, just go on some recruiting visits and judge for yourself. Almost all of the schools mentioned would be able to handle your track needs

You might want to check out Bentley College near Boston, Massachusetts. NCAA II program with a great undergraduate business education. They have a XC/T&F program which puts academics first and still produces quality runners...in recent years they have had guys run as fast as 1:51 for 800m ....4:12 for mile....14:35 for 5K...and school record is 1:50 for 800m.....the coach has a low key program with mileage for guys set up to their individual needs with a gradual buildup. They also have some financial help if someone shows a real interest in the school...its a good idea to check out many schools and contact the coaches so you can find what is best for you...

Villanova has a great tradition of track & XC excellence as well as their head coach being Marcus O'Sullivan.

Villanova's Business school has links to Johnson & Johnson from what I have read and are ranked just behind Wharton in the Northeast. Overall they are a top 20 school for business.

St. Joes has a good program especially the marketing and Penn has Wharton.

Seton Hall is also an option with a very good business program and an accomplished middle distance program, but nothing over the 800m.

Penn

Princeton

Villanova

G-town

Mich

Stanford

Remember,even if your athletic ability gets you into a university.it does not guarantee that you will get into their business school.Also,after five years at one one university as an undergraduate,you will probably be ready for a move.Athletics will not help your admission to grad school.For the present forget about who has a good grad school and concentrate on a good undergraduate college with superior coaching.