Nice to see a 5th nationally ranked even if it is 35th. I don't see the AR getting 5 right now though. Hopefully 4. The meet at rowan this weekend should be interesting. Have Geneseo RPI Rowan TCNJ and Ramapo running. Plus Haverford, Hopkins, and others from the Mideast. Geneseo v Haverford should be a nice battle and maybe the AR can get a team or two to beat Hopkins.
Oberlin inter-regional rumble this weekend. Any teams in that?
NYU and Oneonta are both at Connecticut College invite this weekend. should be an interesting battle even though they both fell significantly in rankings
Fredonia will be at Oberlin
nattyranks wrote:
National Rankings out for the week: AR gets 5 teams in the top 35 with 1 RV. Tied for 3 most in the rankings with Great Lakes, behind Midwest and New England. Good step forward for the region, showing a real possibility for 4 teams into Nationals and possibly a 5th.
#6. SUNY Geneseo
#13. St. Lawrence
#28. RPI
#31. Hamilton
#35. Rowan
RV. TCNJ
Thoughts?
That looks like 2 teams that can hold their spots into November, 1 team that might hold their spot, and three teams that are solely hype. I'll let you guess
Looks like teams that race against and beat nationally ranked teams move up in the rankings while teams that race against and lose to nationally ranked teams (Oneonta a bunch of New England schools/NYU Dickinson/CMU). Also I believe NYU's "A" team is going to Oberlin not Conn college?
Honey Bijan wrote:
nattyranks wrote:National Rankings out for the week: AR gets 5 teams in the top 35 with 1 RV. Tied for 3 most in the rankings with Great Lakes, behind Midwest and New England. Good step forward for the region, showing a real possibility for 4 teams into Nationals and possibly a 5th.
#6. SUNY Geneseo
#13. St. Lawrence
#28. RPI
#31. Hamilton
#35. Rowan
RV. TCNJ
Thoughts?
That looks like 2 teams that can hold their spots into November, 1 team that might hold their spot, and three teams that are solely hype. I'll let you guess
Honey Bijan is an idiot and most likely a 30+ minute 8K runner
Honey Bijan wrote:
nattyranks wrote:National Rankings out for the week: AR gets 5 teams in the top 35 with 1 RV. Tied for 3 most in the rankings with Great Lakes, behind Midwest and New England. Good step forward for the region, showing a real possibility for 4 teams into Nationals and possibly a 5th.
#6. SUNY Geneseo
#13. St. Lawrence
#28. RPI
#31. Hamilton
#35. Rowan
RV. TCNJ
Thoughts?
That looks like 2 teams that can hold their spots into November, 1 team that might hold their spot, and three teams that are solely hype. I'll let you guess
https://www.tfrrs.org/athletes/4173843/Williams/Bijan_Mazaheri.htmlHoney Bijan is an idiot wrote:
Honey Bijan is an idiot and most likely a 30+ minute 8K runner
No one fast ever posts on letrun ;)
silly child... wrote:
No one fast ever posts on letrun ;)
Yes and no....there are runners and coaches of all abilities that have posted here. Everyone tries to seem faster then they really are though....
Looks like wrote:
Looks like teams that race against and beat nationally ranked teams move up in the rankings while teams that race against and lose to nationally ranked teams (Oneonta a bunch of New England schools/NYU Dickinson/CMU). Also I believe NYU's "A" team is going to Oberlin not Conn college?
Honey Bijan wrote:That looks like 2 teams that can hold their spots into November, 1 team that might hold their spot, and three teams that are solely hype. I'll let you guess
what results are you looking at? Hamilton and TCNJ didn't beat any nationally ranked teams last weekend, and Rowan didn't even race
James Bailey's self made hype video has just hit the web. James has his big meet this weekend in Buffalo and is looking to rally support for his cause. Watch James here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03CS0smMxRA
poosie fawker wrote:
Oberlin inter-regional rumble this weekend. Any teams in that?
For some reason ithaca is running Pre-Nationals at Oshkosh. Should be a fun but ultimately pointless and expensive trip for the Bombers.
Maybe trying to secure some at-large points for Lawyer? Is that how it works for individuals too? I thought this team showed some promise early (and during last track season), but I'd be surprised if they broke into the top-10 at the region meet.
No. That's not how it works for individuals. Top 7 individuals are selected once you take out the automatic and at large qualifying teams. There are no "points" to be secured for individuals. Apparently we got a new NCAA rep this year, let's all cross our fingers that the dude has a clue.
Cool. I know DI has "at large" individuals, so I didn't know if DIII also started doing them when they made the switch to the new system.
Back in my day how many teams/individuals you got was based solely on last years' results. Some years the Atlantic only had the one auto qualifier team and four individuals. Dark days indeed.
TCNJ just curb-stomped Geneseo at Rowan
atlantic peaks wrote:
TCNJ just curb-stomped Geneseo at Rowan
Yeah, they sure showed Geneseo's B team how dominant they are.
Great 4.8 miles everyone!!
Well Rowan clearly didn't deserve that national ranking, but TCNj and Ramapo should move right into the rankings to take their spot. TCNJ proved they are the real deal, and Ramapo proved they are better than most had thought. Both beat RPI handily, and TCNJ averaged 25:18 and Ramapo 25:32. The course may have been a little short, but nothing crazy. And regardless the head to head battles show more than any time can.
My prediction for new regional rankings this week.
1. Geneseo - Raced a B team at Rowan, still the team to beat in the AR after their performance at Mike Woods where they beat St. Lawrence by a good amount. St. Lawrence did average faster today than Geneseo did at Mike Woods, but I don't know enough about their course and have to use head to head for this one.
2. St. Lawrence - Averaged 25:13 in Wisconsin. Know nothing about the course, but that's fast. 2 guys under 25. Time-wise today, they look really good. Honestly based on SLU's performace today,they could take the win too at regionals, but I do have a feeling the course they were on must have been really fast. Geneseo still the favorite based on Mike Woods though.
3. NYU - Check the results from today yourself.
http://www.deltatiming.com/events/2015/2015-oberlin-regional-rumble/#event2
I do not doubt the course was flat and short. Obviously the course was short and fast with those times, but when you see them with a pack that tight and that close to Allegheny who averaged 25:28 at Paul short 2 weeks ago, you realize they are the real deal. They have not raced much, but clearly they are ready. Have to have them in consideration of winning now.
4. TCNJ - Averaged 25:18 at Rowan for second not too far behind Haverford. Should get them nationally ranked. Were missing one of the guys in their top 5, but they are so tight of a pack it doesn't too big of a difference. They have a deep squad with a good group of seniors who I think learned their lesson at regionals last year. If they run smart, I like their chances at a top 5 finish in the region.
5. Ramapo - Averaged 25:32 at Rowan. One of their top 5 was a little off their game today having been sick recently, but with the exception of him, the rest of their top 5 PRed. When all 5 our healthy, I believe they can make a push at the top 3, but it won't be an easy challenge. Amazing improvement this year for Ramapo though.
6. RPI - Averaged 25:42, 6th place at Rowan behind Ramapo by quite a few points. Fazio still looks good as their front runner, but even though their pack of 2-6 is tight, they are too far back to beat any of those top 4 teams unless something changes. Now they ran much better at Mike Woods than they did at Rowan time-wise. Not sure why, don't know anyone personally from RPI. If anyone has any insight please feel free to share. But as far as complaining the Rowan course was short, none of the Mike Woods guys seemed to run way faster at Rowan, so I'll just leave it at that.
7. Fredonia - Averaged 25:12 same course NYU averaged 24:48 on. 24 seconds behind an NYU team I think would probably average about 25:15 or so on a real course. So put Fredonia at 25: 36 and that's why I have them at 7.
8. Hamilton - Had the weekend off. This is where I believe they fit in after all the other teams races though.
9. Rowan averaged 25:45 at their home meet. Definitely not a nationally ranked team, not sure what made that happen last week. They were about the same amount behind RPI as they were at Mike Woods, so maybe both teams had an off race? Don't know for sure, but I'm giving hamilton and Fredonia the edge over them right now. They're good, but not great.
10. Oneonta - At the Connecticut College Invitational Oneonta averaged 26:00. Not terrible, but nothing amazing about that. I got them at 10 right now.
Honorable mention: Rochester. Averaged 25:52 at Rowan. They look pretty good, but I had to give Oneonta 10 over them. The Conn College course is a true 8k, and I do believe Rowan was a bit short. Rochester is close to breaking into the top 10 though,
Oshkosh is a notoriously fast course so I wouldn't be too impressed by their times. However, they only lost to the #1 and #3 ranked teams, and beat #5 Wash U and 11 Wabash, so they should move up in the national rankings. This looks like a pretty good weekend for the AR's chances of getting at large bids