It would be much more telling to look at how these coaches compare to each other, and their contemporaries, if we saw the stats of each coach's athletes before and after...
Are they all great producers? Great recruiters? Or a combination of both?
I have no doubt that the 5 listed are (among) the best at scoring points at the NCAA Championship, but I have to think there are many-a-coach developing athletes very well at lower levels too.
Hoyt at UCLA is also a great HJ coach. He coaches the 5' 8" tall women to jump 6' 3" (Zibby Boyer) and 6' 5' (Sharon Day, Olympian). His male pole vaulters have been known to improve a foot.
Not all top level HJ/PV recruits can make the UCLA academic standard. And Vashti just went pro and some of the Australian and British phenoms are already pro.
"Marshall Obrien" phones autocorrect is smarter than me.
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Jumpsfan wrote:Famous = Dan Pfaff, Wolfgang Ritzdorf
Not so famous = Travis Geopford (sp?) Arkansas, Barry Shempert Tenn
Dan Pfaff = GREAT coach
Travis Geopfert = Recruiter....The majority of his jumpers come in already jumping far. However, he's a great multis coach
Berry Shumpert = Great women's triple jump coach. Not sure about the rest of his jumpers
What athlete has Pfaff coached that didn't come to him already at the world class level, and then Pfaff took to the world class level?
The answer of course is "none."
I see no proof that he is a "GREAT" coach. I see some evidence to suggest that he isn't. Namely, he has had a lot of world class athletes come to him and then become worse jumpers under his tutelage. A "great" coach would have very few world class athletes get worse. Instead I'd say he is a "Good" coach, since he is a bad coach for some of his athletes, and a great coach for other athletes.
Joe Walker II
No one talks about him, he just keeps getting it done. I think he is 70 now.
what is coach.G full name?
I’ve coached a lot of elite high school jumpers, most of whom ended up at Power 5 programs. (And most haven’t really improved, although any discussion of the reasons for that belong on a different thread).
FWIW, the coaches who have done the best job with jumpers I worked with are James Thomas at Tech, Shawn Jackson at Texas Christian, and Keith Hurston at Florida State.