Masters Weekend Runs and Races

Nice to see a two page masters thread.

It has been a frustrating spring for me, but the running injuries have gotten me out on the bike, which has been amazing. There are bike trails connecting the entire peninsula. I also finally found a gym with treadmills that have the incline enabled. Hopefully this will make hill repeats easier on my PF.

Last week I had a couple of easy runs, really concentrating on the heel strike. Also rode about 130km and hit the elliptical everyday. Today is a holiday in Korea, so I am going for a 60km ride and an 8km run. Hoping this is the start of reduced injury time and more training reports; for myself and everyone here.

Bob

apparently, all it takes to generate a two page thread is me making a "racist" remark. i probably don't need to justify or clarify, nor should i engage, but...

to the idiot who keeps posting under a dozen different pseudonyms: learn to read.

why anyone would go through the trouble to get ray m.'s reply deleted when it hurt nor offended anyone (and why the moderators would comply) is beyond me. i'm not sure where is said anything about giving anyone a "free pass"; all i said is i don't care, because frankly it doesn't matter. there ARE things i do care about in this sport, but not being able to verify someone's training regimen is not one of them.

see y'all next week, and spikez, welcome to socal--feel free to call yourself socal spikez if you'd like...

four straight weeks at 105 mpw (15/day), and the weather really moderated this week in the latter half, and so running was a real pleasure in the mornings, with temps in the 60s and 70s and not much humidity for a change. I was training with college kids a couple times a week and getting in some very good workouts, but they were capped at 4800m total and the rests were often too long, so that plus the heat of my two races in April did not get me anywhere near where I thought I'd have been (i.e. sub 16 5000m). We were doing 1:45-48 on 7x600; 4x400 in 70 and a mile and a half in 7:38; and 6x800 in 2:26-2:29, but with temps in the upper 80s and high humidity I ran high 16s and then 36 mid in a 10k (pros were running 34/35 mostly). I was hoping to get a race up in the mid Atlantic this coming weekend with cool temps but I strained my ribs yesterday and it hurts to stand up, so I may not be able to race. Good running to all of you!

Runletscon wrote:

Yeah Cush. That's some racist thinking. You essentially said, "He's Native American so you shouldn't expect truthful race times from him, and why burst his bubble if ignorance is keeping him happy."

no, what i essentially said was "he's probably just your average letsrun poster, like runletscon/take some effen responsibility, and you shouldn't expect truthful race times from them, and why burst their bubbles if ignorance is keeping them happy."

hope that clears it up, and stay happy my friends...

I for one would have liked to read Ray's response. Why was it deleted ?

I don't worry about Ray and his times but if you post great times on an international running website and someone wants to know more about those times I can't say it's out of line.

Biked 18 today.

Especially when you claim a 1:56 indoor 800m at 45 years of age, which would be a world indoor record for M45-49.

Old Man by the Sea wrote:

I for one would have liked to read Ray's response. Why was it deleted ?

I don't worry about Ray and his times but if you post great times on an international running website and someone wants to know more about those times I can't say it's out of line.

Biked 18 today.

ray's post was deleted, but you can still see part of it in someone's reply. i don't think he had a second post in response to the accusations, though i remember he responded once when he first started posting with what seemed at the time a reasonable explanation, though i can't really remember the details.

i'm not against calling b.s. on anyone, or requesting proof of claims. i just think if we delete/moderate every false OR simply unsubstantiated claim, we may as well just turn out the lights on this site and go home. and, like i said, i've always appreciated this thread because of the absence of vitriol and hostility...

Odd posts......

This is a great thread! Always has been. Here and there, we get someone or a few someones who stop in and post things that just don't make sense. The best strategy is to just completely ignore the post and they seem to go away. Many times, I think the posts are there just to see if someone will be riled up afterwards.

I have read a few posts that were odd.... my guess is they will go away. Keep posting your accurate training and sharing information. It why OMBTS started this thread ages ago and why we older guys keep coming back :)

What's "a reasonable explanation" for falsely claiming race times that are masters world records?

skinnbones wrote:

Odd posts......

This is a great thread! Always has been. Here and there, we get someone or a few someones who stop in and post things that just don't make sense. The best strategy is to just completely ignore the post and they seem to go away. Many times, I think the posts are there just to see if someone will be riled up afterwards.

I have read a few posts that were odd.... my guess is they will go away. Keep posting your accurate training and sharing information. It why OMBTS started this thread ages ago and why we older guys keep coming back :)

Honestly- I almost laughed at the 1:57 with 34 mph SE winds! Really!?

We have all been on the track during windy days and there were times I would say that maybe I ran against a 20 mph wind (probably a slight exaggeration) - I darn near came to a stop it took me from 60 pace to 80 pace. I basically shut the workout down or did some fast 200's with wind at back.

34 mph would actually be difficult not to step off the track. Who would race in that?

I agree that is should be ignored, but to a point. We have to have some credibility here or else it discredits masters running and can have a negative connotation for Masters track in general.

SpikezI see the schedule is up now. I'm sure there will be some good competition. I won't be in top shape, but if I go I think 2:08 or so is in the cards for an 800. Wonder if I can get on a 4 x 400 relay?Here is a question for the board: Anyone ever try a 600 (60 second rest) 200? Thought I might try that- painful as it sounds and use it as a benchmark workout for the 800.

Spikez wrote:

SKATE wrote:

RENO: Say it isn't so- I'd like to see you back on the circuit some day soon.

I am almost over my hamstring issues which means I can start training faster again. May jump in an 800 this weekend, Sacramento- or who knows venture south tot he Striders meet in a couple of weeks.

I'm planning on the Striders meet. Hope to see you there.

My favorite Ray M. post was from August 31, 2015 when he said he raced a 5000m in 15.17.84 while being "20 pounds overweight" and with "at least 110 degrees" temperature at the track.

Then, he reposted, with an appology, saying his time was actually 15.17.94.

Classic!

My thoughts on Ray are pretty skeptical. I usually just skim over his posts to look for a ridiculous time, and generally get a nice chuckle. 3 X 1000 @ 2:34-36 with 2:00 recovery was a doozy. I'd be done after one, and pretty happy about it. Perhaps the tracks Ray runs on aren't accurately measured, but it's funny that with those type of performances, I think I would have heard of him. He does seem pretty meticulous with his mileage counts. I've pretty much stopped taking him seriously as it seems even others in his circle are running incredible times too. He likes posting though, and I like laughing... to each his own I guess. Just my opinion too.

Not to pile on, but I also gloss over Ray's posts. I find them entertaining though. While the number, and size, of hills in each run, the stunningly accurate weather conditions, and the diary aspect of the posts are great details; it feels like fiction. Maybe the same could be said for my own posts, especially since I am outside the American masters scene.

One of the reasons I love this thread is for the people here. The training posts are good, but the race reports rock. The experiences of people here have helped me be better as a runner since 40 than I was before. It is why I look forward to Dave's thread start each Sunday night (my time).

Looking forward to next week's training and race reports.

Bob

Mike, can you give an update on your coaching ? Anything new since the stuff that was on LR some months back ? Best wishes.

Last night, I ran a faster 10k as a not very hard tempo with a bit cooler weather than I ran ten days ago in a race in hot/humid weather, and then finished with a 2M faster. 10k-36:46/2M-11:12 (5:43/5:29). That was going to be an 8M tempo and might have been a very solid mid 45, but when nature calls you have to answer at some point. Maybe running up in the mid-Atlantic in the morning might make a big difference after all.

I see they offer 4 x 100 at the meet but not a 4 x 400. Well, I renewed USATF membership for two years and I have the day off from work the day before - so I can drive down. I'm getting closer to committing.

Spikez wrote:

I'm planning on the Striders meet. Hope to see you there.

SKATE wrote:

I see they offer 4 x 100 at the meet but not a 4 x 400.

Well, I renewed USATF membership for two years and I have the day off from work the day before - so I can drive down. I'm getting closer to committing.

Spikez wrote:

I'm planning on the Striders meet. Hope to see you there.

If you go, please say hello. I might be the only lady hurdler, so I'm easy to spot!

Will do!

Short hurdles- 300H? or both?