Baltimore Riots On TV

So, there isn't a group called Black Gorillas?

DiscoGary wrote:

I think only one right now.

This is very disturbing? Which city is being razed to the ground? Can you post a link?

Sometimes trolls have a point.The indigenous populations of New England did not initially appreciate the threat posed by the colonists. Their perception changed in a few decades, and the natives did attempt to eliminate the colonies by force. A series of wars started in 1675 which were the bloodiest in American history as a proportion of the populations engaged. The first, called King Philip's War (or Metacomet's War), lasted for about four years and devastated the New England colonies causing the abandonment of many smaller settlements especially on the northern and western frontiers of New England. A rough estimate is that one percent of the English settler population was killed in King Philip's War (and many more natives). Wars continued intermittently on the frontiers of New England for the next 100 years as adjuncts to the struggle for control of North America by colonial powers, with natives allied first with the French against the British and then with the British against the colonists. It wasn't until after the American Revolution that the frontiers were secure enough to allow for extensive settlements in Vermont and in upstate New York west of the Hudson River.

Randy Oldman wrote:

Schwartzehonky wrote:

Something the Native Americans should have done some 500 years ago,bury the thieving,murdering pilgrims at sea before they got a chance to invade this continent.The world would have been better off.

I think you're being funny.

The Pilgrims moved to The Colonies. They were already colonies when The Pilgrims got here.

DiscoGary wrote:

Star wrote:

This riot is made up mostly of teenagers using the police injustice excuse to act out.

The rioting gained momentum from kids wanting to just join in the "fun".

It's not as deep and as political as many are making it to be.

The fact that so many young black people think it's OK to riot, attack people, loot, and burn buildings is something that needs deeper analysis don't you think?

You can deeply analyze it if you want.

I'm just saying that the kids involved aren't deeply analyzing it or trying to be profound.

They are just having a visceral reaction. Mob mentality.

Fightfor15 wrote:

As I said before I see the actions in Baltimore as a reaction of oppressed persons living in this system. At the same time, I am one of nonviolent protest/action but not if it is going to be passive. The reaction to what we're seeing on TV by the police is to continue to escalate things to restore order. Police become more and more militarized and continue to beat people who are protesting police brutality. I do not see how the people win any justice in this situation going on the way they are.

Wow!! You win a gold star for "representin" the nutcase far left academics! Power to the people!!

Now we just need a far right nut checking in to talk about "sheeple" ,god and guns!

Then we'll perfect examples of the two groups holding back any progress in the country. Every voice of reason in the middle is drowned out by idiots like you.

You sir, are a nothing more than a turd, with zero solutions to anything other than talking about your own, demented agenda.

True but burying the Pilgrims at sea would not have stopped colonization. The Indian wars were justified by decades of provocation by The Pilgrims.

Thousands of volunteers in the streets of Baltimore today cleaning up the rubble, though this doesn't seem to be covered in the mainstream media outlets.

Easy, friend. Name calling is not a way to illustrate your points. I know I posted the side of me not seeing police brutality as something that is not okay.

I understand that what we are seeing in Baltimore is the product of a failed system that has caused people to see this as the only solution. This is where this community has been pushed to. Let's work on solutions and do that together. I do not think destroying cop cars etc. etc. is a good way to actually win something from an organizing standpoint. The reaction of the police will then be to militarize and the problem does not stop.

Please do not comment with name calling and claim to speak for someone like me who would like to bridge the gap between people of different backgrounds. This is what I think the problem is. People who live comfortably would rather like to act as though there is no problem because it does not effect them. Let's acknowledge where we come from, that some of us start of with more opportunities than one another, and create real solutions to these problems. The people out in the streets live in a system where they do not have the same opportunities I have as a white person in this country. That needs to stop and we need to work together to accomplish this.

Cheers.

Actually, the Pilgrims were attacked by Indians right after they stepped off the boat and started looking around. The Pilgrims shot back and chased the Indians well into the forest because they knew if they didn't show they were willing to aggressively defend themselves they would be under constant attack and wouldn't last long.

The Indians were at constant war with each other and anyone else who wandered into their domain. They never were the peace loving, tree hugging, agrarian ideal of humanity that our current educational system makes them out to be.

nick83 wrote:

Most of the looters and thugs aren't even from the same neighborhood where all the looting and robberies happened. I'm guessing only a few dumb residents were among the majority of the mobs going around stealing and burning stuff.

The bigger question is: The inner-city schools have enough money to obtain grief counselors for their students (announced after the schools closed for the week), but not enough money to get adequate teachers and supplies to keep students in school and from dropping out? The system is so broken.

Um, more money for teachers and supplies will not keep them in school. Not saying that we do not need those things, but that statement is not a valid reason for the high dropout rate. Instead, we need a new system that allows for schools to let those with no higher education goals to learn skills that they can use in the workforce. Think vocational training, but with more like an apprenticeship where they transition from all day in school to part in school and part in a workplace to where they go directly to a skilled trade, not fast food or retail.

In 1977, Joe Campos Torres was arrested for disorderly conduct and taken by Houston Police Department officers to a secluded area and beat him nearly to death. They took him to the city jail, where he was denied entry due to his need for medical attention. The cops took him back to the same area and dumped him in the bayou. The Mexican immigrant community rioted in much the same way people are rioting in Baltimore following a very light punishment in a criminal trial for the police.

There are many examples of riots following cases of police brutality in the US. The problem is not exclusively an African American issue. It is the problem of impoverished communities with high crime, low education and constant police presence. People driven to the margins of society can live with the desperation, poverty and crime but go over the edge when confronted with the idea that the police can beat, main and kill people with impunity. The thugs know that they made a choice to live a life of crime and understand that if they get caught they will face hard time. But if the police can just take them off the street and kill them, then all bets are off.

If you expect the thugs, criminals and other people living on the margins in places like Baltimore to react to police violence with smart letters to the editors at the Baltimore Sun and organize a broad coalition of social organizations committed to non-violent change in society, you are pretty clueless.

Precious Roy wrote:

If you expect the thugs, criminals and other people living on the margins in places like Baltimore to react to police violence with smart letters to the editors at the Baltimore Sun and organize a broad coalition of social organizations committed to non-violent change in society, you are pretty clueless.

That's exactly how I expect them to react. You seem to have pretty low expectations for black people. Are you saying they lack the intellect to participate peacefully in a civil society like the Tea Partiers did after the government ignored their concerns?

I protested, no one in government listened to my concerns, I was ignored, I didn't get what I wanted, and I didn't riot. I expect all citizens of this country to behave civilly at all times and make changes through peaceful legal means.

One of the biggest problems this country has right now is that there are a huge number of people like you who refuse to hold blacks to the same standard of behavior that we expect of everyone else. We can't have a civil society if one group of people is granted a blank check for violence every time an injustice occurs. That's disgusting.

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White people aren't complaining. We find it fascinating that all the black stereotypes can be so accurately portrayed on out own TVs. I mean, this couldn't make me feel any more justified in my opinion of blacks. Great job street thugs!

damnws wrote:

White cops need to stop killing black people. And more white people need to do something other than complain when riots take place. White people don't care until it hits close to home.

No Roy - rioting is the domain of Blacks. Hispanics don't riot. Amish don't riot. Whites don't riot. Russian-Americans don't riot. Take your libtard PC views and hit the road you loser!

Blacks are not being killed by cops. They are being killed by other blacks. Please3 take your PC out of her.

6300 blacks were murdered in 2013. Of that total only 200 were killed by cops. And most of those were dangerous and brandishing weapons. The vast majority - over 94% are killed by other blacks. Quit the PC BS!

Racehorse wrote:

Um, more money for teachers and supplies will not keep them in school. Not saying that we do not need those things, but that statement is not a valid reason for the high dropout rate. Instead, we need a new system that allows for schools to let those with no higher education goals to learn skills that they can use in the workforce. Think vocational training, but with more like an apprenticeship where they transition from all day in school to part in school and part in a workplace to where they go directly to a skilled trade, not fast food or retail.

They're already doing this in Baltimore. Mervo, Carver, and the various career academies are some of the best performing schools in the Baltimore system. Motivated students attend these schools and graduate, many of them with a trade. If you're more academically oriented, City, Poly, and Digital Harbor are all decent.

The problem is the thousand of unmotivated students in the system. As crappy as the Baltimore schools are, there are opportunities available to excel. But, as they say, you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink.

The problems you're seeing are the result of many things, but lack of parental involvement and unstable households from day one are major concerns that result in a lack of success later in education.