If that's the case ex thrower needs the lpd treatment. But then again he will be some other handle like lpd in a few days....
If that's the case ex thrower needs the lpd treatment. But then again he will be some other handle like lpd in a few days....
douglas burke wrote:
wejo wrote:I see three issues:
1) Bad cops
2) A lot of people who don't feel they have many prospects in life
3) Rioting
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#1 bad cops- of course they should try to weed them out.
#2 A lot of people don't have good prospects in life in a lot of inner cities the high school dropout rate is 30-50% or more.
A lot of people with degrees even masters degrees, can't get jobs and when they do it's $10-15 dollars an hour (everyone can't be like the posters on letsrun who have to decide on multiple 6 figure jobs immediately after college lol just kidding)
If you give these people rioting jobs you have to take a job away from someone else (probably more qualified, certainly with better morals as these rioters seem to be happy stealing looking at some pictures.
Our politicians and businesses have not put Americans first as they are supposed to instead having jobs sent overseas where they pay slave wages to workers basically getting cheaper labor than they can in the USA which has minimum wage laws.
even if there were enough jobs would they take it? when they can make much more selling drugs or robbing or other illegal activity? remember most don't think they will get caught as most get away with a lot of stuff before they are caught.
You can't give them jobs they are not qualified for they can't be a brain surgeon or pilot without being extremely good and 99.99999% of the rioters can't get their no matter how hard they try.
All these politicians saying they want to cure the cancer of equality, really? the people that have don't want to lose it, and the rich basically control everything, republicans/democrats they both need wealthy donors.
Is there a real solution?
Jobs are not a zero sum game. That is the fatal flaw in your argument.
douglas burke wrote:
You can't give them jobs they are not qualified for they can't be a brain surgeon or pilot without being extremely good and 99.99999% of the rioters can't get their no matter how hard they try.
All these politicians saying they want to cure the cancer of equality, really? the people that have don't want to lose it, and the rich basically control everything, republicans/democrats they both need wealthy donors.
Is there a real solution?
Douglas, we have a heck of a lot of illegal immigrants in this country doing construction, agriculture, and culinary work. These jobs don't pay a lot now because illegal labour drives down wages. Remove several million labourers from the equation and you have a lot of work to be done at reasonable, living wages.
This is a tough reality that we as a nation need to confront. Unfortunately, our politicians are shifting towards "winning the Latino vote" which makes the necessary policies nearly impossible.
Schwartzehonky wrote:
Something the Native Americans should have done some 500 years ago,bury the thieving,murdering pilgrims at sea before they got a chance to invade this continent.The world would have been better off.
I think you're being funny.
The Pilgrims moved to The Colonies. They were already colonies when The Pilgrims got here.
This isn't a jobs problem. This is a cultural problem that has been created by the race hustlers who have been teaching blacks that they are victims, that they are owed something, that whites are responsible for their problems, and that the system will never be fair to them. On top of that we pay for the break up of families which creates more of the problem the solution was intended to solve.
If you spend decades filling people with a sense of victim-hood and hatred for another race, then you should not be surprised to see it boil over into violence.
Race hustlers spread hatred and division for money and political gain. They created this mess. It is their fault.
Who are "they"?
The education system
Main stream media
Hollywood
The entire Democrat party
Parts of the Republican Party
The only positive are the journalist being attacked.
TV journalist from the 24 hour networks are responsible for poking a stick at the victims and perpetrators of all of this to get good stuff on the television.
They have done it all over the world and are responsible for the chaos in our world..
Only good news.
Sammy j. elton wrote:
douglas burke wrote:You can't give them jobs they are not qualified for they can't be a brain surgeon or pilot without being extremely good and 99.99999% of the rioters can't get their no matter how hard they try.
All these politicians saying they want to cure the cancer of equality, really? the people that have don't want to lose it, and the rich basically control everything, republicans/democrats they both need wealthy donors.
Is there a real solution?
Douglas, we have a heck of a lot of illegal immigrants in this country doing construction, agriculture, and culinary work. These jobs don't pay a lot now because illegal labour drives down wages. Remove several million labourers from the equation and you have a lot of work to be done at reasonable, living wages.
This is a tough reality that we as a nation need to confront. Unfortunately, our politicians are shifting towards "winning the Latino vote" which makes the necessary policies nearly impossible.
I agree, and the ones suffering the most are the low skilled which is in very disproportionately high numbers, the blacks.
Ironically blacks voted 96% and still mostly love Obama, yet his amnesty programs are hurting blacks, though few blacks seem to realize.
Basically Obama knowing full well blacks lag in education and because of so many illegal immigrants jobs that paid $20-30 per hour, are now minimum wage, and Obama wants to let in 20 million more in and to let them bring their families here, so the low skilled blacks will have 20 million more people to compete for jobs against.
douglas burke wrote:
My teacher in 3rd grade always told me there are a lot more good people than bad people, I think the cops in Baltimore should just go on vacation and let the good people just overwhelm the bad people with sheer numbers.
I think the cops there are on vacation.
Also, I hear the crab cakes are good there. Free Crab cakes!
Problem solved.
wejo wrote:
I see three issues:
1) Bad cops
2) A lot of people who don't feel they have many prospects in life
3) Rioting
#1 combined with #2 is an excuse for #3. In the video feed, a reporter drove by a drug/grocery store live streaming from his phone. People had their cars pulled up and parked and were loading stolen stuff into their trunks. First person I saw doing this was a white woman. I don't think racism is the reason she was doing what she was doing.
Just because I think there are thug/racist cops doesn't mean I go riot.
Cops involved with "rough rides" should all be prosecuted. It should be made a crime to transport someone who is shackled without securing them. I'm assuming in Baltimore some of these cops are black so I don't know if you still want to call it racism, but cops treating criminals like they are not worthy of life has to stop. I think the vast majority of cops do their job honorably.
However, this instance and the South Carolina shooting show some don't. The shooting was obviously super troubling but it also really bothered me that the second cop who came up the scene who was black, just let the suspect lay there on the ground handcuffed with his face on the ground after he had been shot. In the video I saw, I didn't see any attempt to render aid. Now granted the cop probably thought the guy on the ground had just tried to kill his partner, but it's a human being lying their on the ground bleeding to death. He is cuffed and their is no longer a threat to anyone. The cops should be taught it is then their duty to render aid. It is not ok to let someone die because they are a criminal. It is not OK to give someone a "rough ride" because they have done XYZ.
On the other hand, the rioting can be stopped hopefully with a show of force. I used to think calling out the police in riot gear agitated the situation but clearly not. Letting people blow off steam clearly hasn't worked. Declare some sort of martial law. Call out the National Guard. Increase penalties for anyone committing a crime. Look up the plates of the woman stealing on TV, announce a warrant for her arrest. Put her in jail.
I've been trying to call Rojo for the last couple of hours to see what he thinks living there.
#1 - there are 31,000 police departments in the US. The way it works is that everyone of those would have to weed out bad cops and it seems many departments don't want to. The English and Welsh police attempted to weed out bad cops after the Toxteth riots and put rules in place to prevent discrimination against minorities. Obviously there will always be a few bad apples.
#2 - There are people who feel helpless. I've seen poverty in parts of England. It's a downward spiral. In the poor people of all races lose hope.
#3 - The BBC estimated the number of rioters confronting the police as "dozens". Many will have been recognizable and will be arrested. On the other hand there are 3,080 cops. Clearly the majority of the black community is ashamed.
Mother beats her son who wanted to join the riots.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-32490250Randy Oldman wrote:
Schwartzehonky wrote:Something the Native Americans should have done some 500 years ago,bury the thieving,murdering pilgrims at sea before they got a chance to invade this continent.The world would have been better off.
I think you're being funny.
The Pilgrims moved to The Colonies. They were already colonies when The Pilgrims got here.
Oh good are we talking about the American Holocaust where by the 18th century only 1/3 of one percent of America’s population-250,000 out of 76,000,000 people-were natives. This was the worst human holocaust the world had ever witnessed, roaring across two continents non-stop for four centuries and consuming the lives of countless tens of millions of people. And then we know we moved onto slavery and the society we are living in now is structured as a white supremacist capitalist patriarchy.
My apologies to making anyone feel uncomfortable for using all of the right terms.
As I said before I see the actions in Baltimore as a reaction of oppressed persons living in this system. At the same time, I am one of nonviolent protest/action but not if it is going to be passive. The reaction to what we're seeing on TV by the police is to continue to escalate things to restore order. Police become more and more militarized and continue to beat people who are protesting police brutality. I do not see how the people win any justice in this situation going on the way they are.
Don't apologize for using "the right terms." Apologizing for sharing your idiotic simple view of society from the "victim" standpoint. The people burning and stealing from their own city are not protesting anything. They are doing it for selfish reasons and using the police as an excuse to behave like animals and they don't deserve any justice other than a jail cell or a casket.
ScaryStuff wrote:
douglas burke wrote:My teacher in 3rd grade always told me there are a lot more good people than bad people, I think the cops in Baltimore should just go on vacation and let the good people just overwhelm the bad people with sheer numbers.
I think the cops there are on vacation.
Also, I hear the crab cakes are good there. Free Crab cakes!
Problem solved.
Most of the crab cakes in town are not made with local Maryland crabs. The "crab" comes from wherever their supplier gets it from. Usually overseas and only technically called "crab meat".
I will say the crab that is prepared here is 1000 times better than the slop I got in Louisville or the deep south.
Alan
This riot is made up mostly of teenagers using the police injustice excuse to act out.
The rioting gained momentum from kids wanting to just join in the "fun".
It's not as deep and as political as many are making it to be.
If you want to see a real riot go to Canada.
Star wrote:
This riot is made up mostly of teenagers using the police injustice excuse to act out.
The rioting gained momentum from kids wanting to just join in the "fun".
It's not as deep and as political as many are making it to be.
The fact that so many young black people think it's OK to riot, attack people, loot, and burn buildings is something that needs deeper analysis don't you think?
What about much bigger riots in Seoul, Zurich, Vancouver, Thailand, London?How many black people were involved?
Randy Oldman wrote:
What about much bigger riots in Seoul, Zurich, Vancouver, Thailand, London?How many black people were involved?
Can I play? Let's see. Oh, yeah...
What about the Revolutionary War? How many black people were involved?
What the hell are you talking about? Weak.
While you play word games cities are being burned down by blacks in this country... right now .... as we write. We need answers fast, and the only way to get the right ones is to throw aside political correctness and take a sober look at the real problem facing us - the self-destructive black culture.
How many out of over 20,000 cities in the US are being burned down by blacks?
DiscoGary wrote:
Randy Oldman wrote:What about much bigger riots in Seoul, Zurich, Vancouver, Thailand, London?How many black people were involved?
Can I play? Let's see. Oh, yeah...
What about the Revolutionary War? How many black people were involved?
What the hell are you talking about? Weak.
While you play word games cities are being burned down by blacks in this country... right now .... as we write. We need answers fast, and the only way to get the right ones is to throw aside political correctness and take a sober look at the real problem facing us - the self-destructive black culture.
You do know that it is not limited to blacks in this country, don't you? It is pervasive in much of today's youth, specifically the underclass. They have been brainwashed by their parental figures to think that they are victims, black, white, latino, etc., and do not see past today. "Flee youthful lusts" is how the Bible puts it, but many of these have no use for God's Word, so they never grow up and accept responsibility for their own future.
Ura racist wrote:
How many out of over 20,000 cities in the US are being burned down by blacks?
I think only one right now. Ferguson already burned. How many cities do blacks have to burn before you consider it a problem?
This kind of response is at the core of the problem. Anyone who attempts to address the nihilistic black culture gets attacked as a racist. I'm a white middle aged Tea Party guy so if you think you've got an insult I haven't heard yet, then take your best shot. Calling people "racist" is just getting old.