Lelisa Desisa 2:04 PR. Runs 2:09.
Ritz 2:07 PR. Runs 2:11.
He was closer to his PR than Lelisa and Ritz ran out front quite a bit of the way. He's clearly in great shape. I'm guessing he could PR by quite a bit on a fast course (Chicago or Berlin). I honestly don't think 2:06 would be out of the question.
Predictor of thangs wrote:
Lelisa Desisa 2:04 PR. Runs 2:09.
Ritz 2:07 PR. Runs 2:11.
He was closer to his PR than Lelisa and Ritz ran out front quite a bit of the way. He's clearly in great shape. I'm guessing he could PR by quite a bit on a fast course (Chicago or Berlin). I honestly don't think 2:06 would be out of the question.
Cool story, bro.
Hope you realize that there is not one single knowledgeable student of the sport who thinks that Ritz will ever again come close to his current PR let alone 2:06.
But cool story anyway.
Cool Hand Duke wrote:
Hope you realize that there is not one single knowledgeable student of the sport who thinks that Ritz will ever again come close to his current PR let alone 2:06.
If by "knowledgeable student of the sport," you mean only those students who agree with your opinions then you are (certainly) correct.
If, on the other hand, you mean actual students of the sport than I, for one, believe that Ritz will PR in the Marathon before he hangs up his spike. I also think he has a podium finish in a major marathon (2016 Olympics included). Obviously those two goals likely don't happen on the same day but the guy is 33 not 39 and just finished 7th in Boston running the hardest possible way while not in the best shape of his life.
Mundus Vult wrote:
Cool Hand Duke wrote:Hope you realize that there is not one single knowledgeable student of the sport who thinks that Ritz will ever again come close to his current PR let alone 2:06.
If by "knowledgeable student of the sport," you mean only those students who agree with your opinions then you are (certainly) correct.
If, on the other hand, you mean actual students of the sport than I, for one, believe that Ritz will PR in the Marathon before he hangs up his spike. I also think he has a podium finish in a major marathon (2016 Olympics included). Obviously those two goals likely don't happen on the same day but the guy is 33 not 39 and just finished 7th in Boston running the hardest possible way while not in the best shape of his life.
Cool story bro.
Anything else that you are completely out of touch with reality on?
Not bad for running into a 20 mph headwind. And to your point,- yes, if Meb runs a 2:08:37, Ritz is definitely running 2:07 in the same conditions. But it also shows how Meb would also have finished 2-3 minutes behind last year as well had any of these guys actually shown up.
Ritz is the "Last Man Standing" of the Big 3
Cool Hand Duke wrote:
Cool story bro.
Cool Hand Duke wrote:
Cool story bro.
Anyone who says "Cool story, bro" in two consecutive posts deserves a douche bag award. You're clearly a twelve to fourteen year old on his mom's computer who thinks he has it all figured out.
Anyways, beyond your clear incompetence, I think it's bold to says Ritz will run a 2:06-2:07, but I don't think it's too far out there. Boston IS a tough course and Ritz is finally healthy, but he did not run at 100% today. He ran with a huge, hairy pair of balls. Put him on a course like London, he would definitely go 2:06-2:07 IF and only IF he can get to 100% without an injury. That is the only thing holding him back from accomplishing this. Beyond the course toughness, the conditions weren't ideal today. It was clearly tactical looking at how many were still in the lead pack past 20 miles. I believe he will have it figured out, but it depends on where he decides to let it all hang out. He has plenty of time being only 32 years old. If he goes back to Boston at 100%, he won't run 2:06-2:07, but he would definitely place higher. Sometimes the prestige of winning or placing high at a race like Boston is better than time trialing over seas. It just depends on his individual goals.
I really hope he does go to London or some other fast course at 100% so douche bags like you can crawl back into your holes and realize you're not the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Mundus Vult wrote:
Cool Hand Duke wrote:Hope you realize that there is not one single knowledgeable student of the sport who thinks that Ritz will ever again come close to his current PR let alone 2:06.
If by "knowledgeable student of the sport," you mean only those students who agree with your opinions then you are (certainly) correct.
If, on the other hand, you mean actual students of the sport than I, for one, believe that Ritz will PR in the Marathon before he hangs up his spike. I also think he has a podium finish in a major marathon (2016 Olympics included). Obviously those two goals likely don't happen on the same day but the guy is 33 not 39 and just finished 7th in Boston running the hardest possible way while not in the best shape of his life.
Yep. Despite what the typical LR douchebag says, today's obviously extremely encouraging.
His race here has to be worth at least 2:08-ish on a flat course in good conditions, and he's still really early in his build-back.
If he can stay reasonably healthy for a while, he's got a great shot to be back under 2:09, at least --and you're probably right, a decent shot, in the right race, at a new PR.
A great day for Ritzie. Really nice to see.
Now the question is, which, if any, of the second-stringers will emerge as a favorite for the third spot.
At this point, it still looks WIDE open.
I'm wondering about Desi. 2:22?
I completely agree that Ritz could do 35km in 2:07. Ignore the naysayers, this needs to get into right race, have agent or somebody (Al Sal?) Get a timing trap set up at 35km and go for it. I'm with the fan club here and think 2:05 isn't out of the question. Go Ritz Go!
Context is Key wrote:
Cool Hand Duke wrote:Cool story bro.
Cool Hand Duke wrote:
Cool story bro.
Anyone who says "Cool story, bro" in two consecutive posts deserves a douche bag award. You're clearly a twelve to fourteen year old on his mom's computer who thinks he has it all figured out.
Anyways, beyond your clear incompetence, I think it's bold to says Ritz will run a 2:06-2:07, but I don't think it's too far out there. Boston IS a tough course and Ritz is finally healthy, but he did not run at 100% today. He ran with a huge, hairy pair of balls. Put him on a course like London, he would definitely go 2:06-2:07 IF and only IF he can get to 100% without an injury. That is the only thing holding him back from accomplishing this. Beyond the course toughness, the conditions weren't ideal today. It was clearly tactical looking at how many were still in the lead pack past 20 miles. I believe he will have it figured out, but it depends on where he decides to let it all hang out. He has plenty of time being only 32 years old. If he goes back to Boston at 100%, he won't run 2:06-2:07, but he would definitely place higher. Sometimes the prestige of winning or placing high at a race like Boston is better than time trialing over seas. It just depends on his individual goals.
I really hope he does go to London or some other fast course at 100% so douche bags like you can crawl back into your holes and realize you're not the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Cool story bro.
You can hope all you want but Ritz will NEVER pr at ANY significant distance (5000, 10000, HM, Mar) again.
But keep on HOPING. Hope and ignorance are a great way to live for some people. Apparently you are one of them.
Cool Hand Duke wrote:
Context is Key wrote:Anyone who says "Cool story, bro" in two consecutive posts deserves a douche bag award. You're clearly a twelve to fourteen year old on his mom's computer who thinks he has it all figured out.
Anyways, beyond your clear incompetence, I think it's bold to says Ritz will run a 2:06-2:07, but I don't think it's too far out there. Boston IS a tough course and Ritz is finally healthy, but he did not run at 100% today. He ran with a huge, hairy pair of balls. Put him on a course like London, he would definitely go 2:06-2:07 IF and only IF he can get to 100% without an injury. That is the only thing holding him back from accomplishing this. Beyond the course toughness, the conditions weren't ideal today. It was clearly tactical looking at how many were still in the lead pack past 20 miles. I believe he will have it figured out, but it depends on where he decides to let it all hang out. He has plenty of time being only 32 years old. If he goes back to Boston at 100%, he won't run 2:06-2:07, but he would definitely place higher. Sometimes the prestige of winning or placing high at a race like Boston is better than time trialing over seas. It just depends on his individual goals.
I really hope he does go to London or some other fast course at 100% so douche bags like you can crawl back into your holes and realize you're not the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Cool story bro.
You can hope all you want but Ritz will NEVER pr at ANY significant distance (5000, 10000, HM, Mar) again.
But keep on HOPING. Hope and ignorance are a great way to live for some people. Apparently you are one of them.
Apparently you´re so stuck in your mom´s basement that you failed to understand the sarcasm. It´s really funny to hear a teenager talk about ignorance.
well,. wrote:
Cool Hand Duke wrote:Cool story bro.
You can hope all you want but Ritz will NEVER pr at ANY significant distance (5000, 10000, HM, Mar) again.
But keep on HOPING. Hope and ignorance are a great way to live for some people. Apparently you are one of them.
Apparently you´re so stuck in your mom´s basement that you failed to understand the sarcasm. It´s really funny to hear a teenager talk about ignorance.
Hey, REALLY cool story bro.
This is your idea of sarcasm: "Put him on a course like London, he would definitely go 2:06-2:07 IF and only IF he can get to 100% without an injury. " ?
I guess you're right, I didn't quite catch that.
Cool Hand Duke wrote:
Ritz will NEVER pr at , Mar) again.
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Um, ever heard of Meb?
Um, ever heard of Carlos Lopes?
Um, ever heard of Haile Gebreselasie?
How about Tola running 2:13 (barely beating Teg) with a PB of 2:04???
The large time differences maybe due to EPO??!??
So did the bigger time difference for Fernando Cabada mean his EPO was less effective?
Dool Cand Huke wrote:
Cool Hand Duke wrote:Ritz will NEVER pr at , Mar) again.
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Um, ever heard of Meb?
Um, ever heard of Carlos Lopes?
Um, ever heard of Haile Gebreselasie?
Um, ever heard of Ritz? He's the guy that will NEVER pr again.
Glad I could help clear up that confusion for you.
If everyone thought like you no one would ever win or set another pr or, for that matter, accomplish anything in life.
Far Out West wrote:
If everyone thought like you no one would ever win or set another pr or, for that matter, accomplish anything in life.
Nope. Plenty of folks will set new prs and win races (in addition to accomplishing things in life). Indeed, even Ritz will accomplish many things during the rest of his life. It's just that new prs are not among them.
Try to think more clearly. Then you too may accomplish something in life.
You'd have to ask someone with detailed knowledge of how EPO works.