This thread has exceeded my expectations.
This thread has exceeded my expectations.
rojo wrote:
Atlas Shrugged it Off wrote:I live in a state where there are three distinct regions each with different climates, cultures and politics. When we talk about state politics it's necessary to understand each of those groups and how issues affect them. Imagine that in the national or world scale.
That's why travel is important.
What state? Why the secrecy?
California...
Chewbacca wrote:
This thread has exceeded my expectations.
Glad to hear.
These days lol wrote:
The fact that you use the phrase "these days" to describe traveling (sic), as if it's some kind of recent trend, indicates you could do with some traveling (sic) yourself.
Seriously, there are too many stupid Midwest high school students on this board.
GET OUT AND LIVE.
Noted. I will steer clear from the phrase "these days."
Engrish wrote:
More importantly, why did you put quotation marks around the word traveling?
This makes "no sense"
For emphasis.
vivalarepublica wrote:
So I noticed that lots of people these days like to discuss their travels or admire people that have traveled or express great enthusiasm for their travels or the traveling of others. I always figured that traveling was a sign of wealth and leisure more than anything, not a unique trait that makes you interesting. Now if you can play seven instruments or build a car from spare parts, now that's interesting.
Why do some people regard traveling with such high esteem? I understand there is the novelty factor involved, but you don't have to spend thousands of dollars traveling to some far off land for novelty. What's the deal, people?
A sign of wealth and leisure is making a reality TV show about your stupid family. Or hanging out in a coffee shop. I'm painting with a broad brush, but so are you.
I know lower-class families that save hard to take their children on a vacation to experience a different culture or culturally significant things. Friends that have been to Europe (way too broad to encompass) or Williamsburg, or rural Montana, or anything.
Traveling exposes you to history, geography, culture, usually politics and economics. At a lower level, it teaches you to adapt, or at least understand differences from your normal life.
Bud Dickman wrote:
use ur brain, bro wrote:What state has three distinct regions with different climates? Not exactly hard to infer.
A lot.
Tennessee was the first to come to mind. Hence their flag.
Washington?
Alaska?
Montana?
South Dakota?
Oregon?
What's the answer?
If I am not mistaken, Alaska has at least four distinct regions (not counting the Anchorage area).
My first guess was North Carolina. (Coast, middle and Appalachia). Of course, people in Triangle, Triad and Piedmont may argue they live in distinct regions, and Durham, Chapel Hill and Raleigh residents may insist they live in separate worlds from one another. But that's another story.
rojo wrote:
Atlas Shrugged it Off wrote:I live in a state where there are three distinct regions each with different climates, cultures and politics. When we talk about state politics it's necessary to understand each of those groups and how issues affect them. Imagine that in the national or world scale.
That's why travel is important.
What state? Why the secrecy?
Oregon.
You have the Willamette Valley that is wet, temperate and dominates state politics with urban areas (Eugene, Salem and Portland), Eastern Oregon that covers most of the land and is socially and politically closer to Idaho and the mountain states, and Southern Oregon that is home to the mythical State of Jefferson where, along with northern California counties, they occasionally discusses leaving the state.
This small example illustrates why it pays to travel, even within the state, to understand this issues that affect us all when we discuss state policies.
The biggest change in the last generation was the protection of federal forests. This crushed the timber industry and ever since the state had been struggling with dying towns in rural Oregon. To anyone with a desk job in Portland, it's hard to feel the impact and easy to support the legislation.
I say this as a guy with a desk job in Portland.
Mark Twain wrote:
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime."
Well said. You should write a book or something.
Haji wrote:
or this wrote:If you're traveling internationally, it shows a person has initiative, flexibility, resourcefulness, and knowledge.
And a sense of adventure.
And probably some foreign diseases!
If everyone travelled the world, there would be devastating pandemics. Most bad diseases are geographically isolated because people tend to stay in one place.
Atlas Shrugged it Off wrote:
rojo wrote:What state? Why the secrecy?
Oregon. You have the Willamette Valley that is wet, temperate and dominates state politics with urban areas (Eugene, Salem and Portland), Eastern Oregon that covers most of the land and is socially and politically closer to Idaho and the mountain states, and Southern Oregon that is home to the mythical State of Jefferson where, along with northern California counties, they occasionally discusses leaving the state. .
Blah-blah Oregon hippie. I see Rhode Island here; the nation's second most densely populated state is packed with 400 miles of coastline and 20 percent of the country’s historic landmarks. Newport is the sailing capital of the world, home to the famed Gilded Age mansions, while Providence has all a major city has to offer. Rhode Island has two distinct natural regions. Eastern Rhode Island contains the lowlands of the Narragansett Bay, while Western Rhode Island forms part of the New England Upland. And adventurous travelers can take it all in, in a few hours.
ScaryStuff wrote:
I see Rhode Island here... (etc) And adventurous travelers can take it all in, in a few hours.
Yes. Nothing says adventure like Rhode Island.
All my life I wanted to roam
To go to the ends of the earth
But the earth really ends where you started to roam
You and I know what a circle is worth
use ur brain, bro wrote:
rojo wrote:What state? Why the secrecy?
What state has three distinct regions with different climates? Not exactly hard to infer.
Tons of states have distinct regions with different climates that might influence different cultures. It can be hard to infer.
Mark Twain wrote:
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime."
Surprising that we should seek the advice of a man whose vanity caused him to spend himself and his family into ruin. This man just travelled so others could appreciate his greatness.
Urine idiot to wrote:
Mark Twain wrote:"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts. Broad, wholesome, charitable views of men and things cannot be acquired by vegetating in one little corner of the earth all one's lifetime."
Surprising that we should seek the advice of a man whose vanity caused him to spend himself and his family into ruin. This man just travelled so others could appreciate his greatness.
But dammit, he was funny and wrote some great stories.
ScaryStuff wrote:
Blah-blah Oregon hippie. I see Rhode Island here...
Did SS really just attempt to compare Rhode Island to Oregon?!? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaha. That is some scary stuff that he must be ingesting.
cruce wrote:
First off, "traveling" within the usa is not traveling. The usa is absolutely uniform now, the exact same from miami to portland. Regional variation has been erased. You eat the same hamburger or chili's entree for 3000 miles, listen to the same songs and the same voices on the radio, the same commercials, see the same billboards advertising the same trash products, even the architecture is the same: square. The usa is a cultural wasteland and if you think by flying from Akron to Charlotte and checking into the days inn is travel, the entire rest of the world pities you.
But the same problem exists among those tools who "travel" abroad also. People who travel just to travel (ie tourists) are the biggest wankers on the planet. It doesn't show culture or intelligence, it shows the exact opposite of those things. It shows you have enough money to buy a plane ticket and a hotel room, nothing more. It is not adventurous. Your flying for six/eight hours in coach to stand in front of some monument you read about in the guidebook and take the same picture two billion other people have taken doesn't make you indiana jones. You're more of a tool than you would be had you stayed home. Your contrived wish for "adventure" has blighted someone else's home and turned it into a tourist trap, a soulless pool of people squirming to leech off your laziness and stupidity. Tourism should be made illegal, for the cultural blight that it causes in communities. And 99% of what people now are calling "travel" is nothing more than blind, gutless, unimaginative, soulless tourism. You are paying for the privilege of being a complete idiot in someone else's home neighbourhood.
The same goes for the backpacker youth, of course. They aren't exonerated. That is every bit in the same class of tourism. Just a different guidebook. It is all the same shit. Every person who has spent a year backpacking around the world has gone to the same places as every other tool who did the same thing. They all know the same places, ate at the same restaurants, and had the same experiences. It's all very much a package deal. The adventure portion of it is maybe getting stuck out in the rain once or twice before they find the hostel. Everything else is as homogenised as their home country.
But none of it matters because the tools back in the corn-belt of america will consider you an exotic globetrotter even though you were only a package tourist. They've seen it on TV and in the movies so for idiots it still has some glamour attached to it. But if you find fulfilment in your life by impressing boobs, retarded people, illiterate scum, and taco bell employees, then you are one of them, so by all means go right ahead.
The only travel that is actually worthwhile anymore is LIVING abroad for the long term. Years. If you are in a situation where you are an immigrant and fully integrate into a foreign society, then you may gain some slightly elevated, interesting perspective. Still probably not. Much of the world, the cities especially now, are going the exact same way as the entire USA already has. Homogenised, level, everything same. So you almost have to live abroad long-term in some off-piste place to be legit anymore. Otherwise you're just the same as the guidebook tourists.
If you are the .05% who actually get this and understand it, you don't need to be told that anyone who esteems you just for "travelling" is a complete fool and doesn't warrant the time of day from you.
Far, far worse than "tools back in the corn-belt" are absurdly pretentious travel snobs. Of course, you're not one of them, you're actually WAY past that......
Chewbacca wrote:
This thread has exceeded my expectations.
This is LRC. There are no expectations here.
I think it is enjoy and successful. For example i want visiting to Chernobyl here http://gamma-travel.com/tours
"If you're traveling internationally, it shows a person has initiative, flexibility, resourcefulness, and knowledge."
Not some of the people I know.