421 Snowman wrote:
Or the TT was ran on their outdoor track. I didn't even know BYU had an indoor track, but their outdoor track is fast where altitude doesn't come into play.
Possible but unlikely unless they had an unusual January. My memories of Provo this time of year are all snow and 0-degree weather.
MD Phan wrote:
Did you read the article? It said he was running about 25-30 during missionary work but was still really out of shape when he got home. That's sounds about right for MD, but he should have been able to run further than 2 miles when he got home as 25/7= about 3.5.
I'm almost positive that he means he ran about 25-30 miles TOTAL during the entire two years. He was definitely not running 25-30 miles per week.
fdsfsdfasdf wrote:
421 Snowman wrote:Or the TT was ran on their outdoor track. I didn't even know BYU had an indoor track, but their outdoor track is fast where altitude doesn't come into play.
Possible but unlikely unless they had an unusual January. My memories of Provo this time of year are all snow and 0-degree weather.
utah has had a mild winter this year with little snow. I think it hit 60 a few days. Could have happened outdoors.
fdsfsdfasdf wrote:
421 Snowman wrote:Or the TT was ran on their outdoor track. I didn't even know BYU had an indoor track, but their outdoor track is fast where altitude doesn't come into play.
Possible but unlikely unless they had an unusual January. My memories of Provo this time of year are all snow and 0-degree weather.
Those were my thoughts also, but when I scrolled through the pictures in the article it was clear they were running their workouts on the outdoor track so maybe global warming has come to Utah??
421 Snowman wrote:
Or the TT was ran on their outdoor track. I didn't even know BYU had an indoor track, but their outdoor track is fast where altitude doesn't come into play.
It was BYU's indoor track, saw it myself.
EyeWitness wrote:
421 Snowman wrote:Or the TT was ran on their outdoor track. I didn't even know BYU had an indoor track, but their outdoor track is fast where altitude doesn't come into play.
It was BYU's indoor track, saw it myself.
Banked turns? Rolling start? Two timers? Unreal to be a second off the WR in that situation.
Where is he running this weekend? He's not on the 800 sheets up in UW and he's not running the 500 in Milrose.
I can't believe his missionary running was 25-30 total miles in 2 years. What's his OD 200m speed? 20.2 or so?
^^^^^^^^^^
I don't know Ryan, why don't you ask him at practice??
Keep in mind that BYU's indoor track is 5 laps to the mile (~321 meters) so it would still only require 3 turns and change rather than the 6 on a 200 meter track.
Meh. Amankwah, Kidder, Schnulle, Kinnaird, Arroyo are just as fast and about the same age.
So- had to search for a Sir Shaq sighting last weekend, but I think I saw him run the second leg of the 3:08 BYU 4x4 at UW. Mid 55 is what I had on a split. Not so impressive, but respectable.
You BYU guys need to make it a little easier to follow the guy. Let us know when and where he's running. I think he could have went sub 60 in the Millrose 500m for a "world record" (whatever that means anymore) why hide the guy in a relay??
Is that a typo? 3:08 is 47 average. If someone split 55 the other 3 averaged 44 low.
Typo. Mid 45, like 45.7.
Thought he could go 44 but not likely with only splitting 45.7. Still think he may have gone sub 60 at Millrose, but who knows. I guess he's a team guy running in the 4x4- Kind of like their miler they wore down in the DMR that one year.
EyeWitness wrote:
421 Snowman wrote:Or the TT was ran on their outdoor track. I didn't even know BYU had an indoor track, but their outdoor track is fast where altitude doesn't come into play.
It was BYU's indoor track, saw it myself.
I don't believe you. Regardless of it being 5 laps/mile, that track is awful.
If Eyestone says he ran 1:16, I'll believe it. But whether he did it indoors, outdoors or on a downhill road, a TT doesn't matter. He has to do it where it matters.
Please keep us posted on when his upcoming races are.
1:45. Kid is so legit. Called it. Rio 2016.
What about Murphy young american came out of nowhere ran 1:47.0 at nationals. Faster time than Kidder year younger.
kippppp wrote:
Meh. Amankwah, Kidder, Schnulle, Kinnaird, Arroyo are just as fast and about the same age.
Amankwah is actually 23 now, so that's old for a senior, but he did go through the community college system and he was already old before then. But from what i've heard he'll run for Ghana. He has the best PR of this group besides Walker, and now has national final experience. Arroyo has shown a lack of racing savvy when it comes to qualifying or national finals, but he is still young. Kidder seems to be focusing more on the 1500, and I think that's a smart move based on his PR's. There's a pretty small sample size for Capwell, but he seems like a Wheating type runner with a similar background. Besides Shaq, Schnulle probably has the brightest future for USA 800 runners. Looks like his PR's have dropped steadily every year, and he almost timed his kick at outdoor finals perfectly.
Do you think this group will surpass the current crop of pro 800 runners when they get to that level? I think there has been a lull in the last couple years, with Greer winning in 1:46 and last year in 1:46. But it looks like a lot of them will be getting back into the 1:45's like the Jock, Andrews, Wheating, Martin, Loxsom, Primm group did.
MD Phan wrote:
1:45. Kid is so legit. Called it. Rio 2016.
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xH6pqL914wStudent announcers give some weird splits, so ignore that.
The guy who runs him to the line and finishes second in 1:46.16 (also a PB) is Boris Berian, who is 22 and, by class year, should be in his senior season. Not sure why he may have left Adams State and is running for a track club.
For the poster who mentioned other runners as allegedly "just as fast" as Walker, here are the PBs:
Walker 1:45.78
Amankwah 1:45.91
Schnulle 1:46.29
Arroyo 1:46.78i
Kidder 1:46.87
Kinnaird 1:47.13
1:45.xx has gotten very scarce so good to see it.
one to go wrote:
MD Phan wrote:1:45. Kid is so legit. Called it. Rio 2016.
Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xH6pqL914wStudent announcers give some weird splits, so ignore that.
The guy who runs him to the line and finishes second in 1:46.16 (also a PB) is Boris Berian, who is 22 and, by class year, should be in his senior season. Not sure why he may have left Adams State and is running for a track club.
For the poster who mentioned other runners as allegedly "just as fast" as Walker, here are the PBs:
Walker 1:45.78
Amankwah 1:45.91
Schnulle 1:46.29
Arroyo 1:46.78i
Kidder 1:46.87
Kinnaird 1:47.13
1:45.xx has gotten very scarce so good to see it.
Those weren't there PRs at the time. Obviously Walker is among a group of guys in there early 20s that have the potential to be great 800m runners. Being within a second in an 800m is certainly the same ballpark. In the same vein, Walker is now a threat to international college runners McBride (1:45.35) and Kemboi (1:45.98).
8000000000 wrote:
kippppp wrote:Meh. Amankwah, Kidder, Schnulle, Kinnaird, Arroyo are just as fast and about the same age.
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Do you think this group will surpass the current crop of pro 800 runners when they get to that level? I think there has been a lull in the last couple years, with Greer winning in 1:46 and last year in 1:46. But it looks like a lot of them will be getting back into the 1:45's like the Jock, Andrews, Wheating, Martin, Loxsom, Primm group did.
Greer was part of the 1:45's group of Jock, Andrews, Martin, Loxsom and Primm. Of course, Martin, Loxom and Primm never won a NCAA at 1:45 or otherwise. Greer's winning time of 1:46 was a strategic time in a championship that was raced on what was needed to win on that day. He is the only pro so far out of that group to improve on his college time (which was 1:45.06).
kippppp wrote:
In the same vein, Walker is now a threat to international college runners McBride (1:45.35) and Kemboi (1:45.98).
Totally agree with this. What happened to the kid indoor? He busted a fast time early season in Washington and then I never heard about him again. Will outdoor be same story?