Now that elites are running ultras, what's left for normal runners?

just to throw this out there.

No elites run ultra's?

the Comrades (which is an ultra for some on here who might not know) Women down record (5:54) was set in 1989 by Frith Van Der Merwe who also happens to have run the 4th fastest marathon in the world in 1990.

Hmmm who would have guessed. An ultra runner who became an elite marathoner.

Nobody can take away you striving for a PR every race. Run and support small local races.

Picnic Hiker wrote:

Because dominating "the ulra scene" is like being the smartest kid on the short bus. At the end of the day your still a retard.

A retard who makes $10,000 per race.

Sam Tshabalala wrote:

Yes Comrades had testing back when Leonid was competing. Actually they had it before then. Charl Matheuis won in 1992 but was dq'ed for taking norephedrine in an OTC cold medication.

Which South Africans are they sympathetic towards?

Probably didn't test for EPO though.

Ludwick Mamabolo.

plus one for roadies wrote:

Disagree. As a marathoner/roadie dabbling in ultras, I find the ultra community snooty, sponsorship whores, and obsessing over their mileage/diets/gear/personal image/training scenery. The roadies/marathoners are at least normal people eating normal food, they're fit, and not attention-seeking-whores.

I found the opposite to be true. My background is primarily road racing however, since moving nearer mountains, I started running trails, meeting up with the local trail runner group and raced one trail 50k. Everyone is really down to earth, are more interested in spending time in nature and having fun versus obsessing over mileage, times etc. I have even come across a few of the top ultra guys, out here, and they have all been really kind and low key people. The few I met are also very aware that they do not have the speed and therefore, could not compete with top T&F and road runners should those runners decide to train for and move-up to ultras. They are doing what they are doing because they love being in the mountains and would still be doing it, even if the competitive dynamics changed out of their favor. I have not met a single snooty sponsorship whore in the trail runner community. It is not a better scene versus the road scene, just different and I personally enjoy both.

Congrats to Sage in hitting 10000 twitter followers.

Real ### wrote:

You realize that you can buy followers? I know that Sage does. Who knows how many followers people really have. It is certainly not a way to measure success.

I wasn't really sure about that, but a google search indicated that a lot of celebrities and businesses do that. How do you know Sage does?

Typical runner or sockpuppet wrote:

[quote]Picnic Hiker wrote:

Because dominating "the ulra scene" is like being the smartest kid on the short bus. At the end of the day your still a retard.

A retard who makes $10,000 per race.

How many ultras pay $10K?

Comrades pays $35,000 for first with 35k available for a course record.

Sam Tshabalala wrote:

Comrades pays $35,000 for first with 35k available for a course record.

Do they have two separate records, one for the 'up' course and one for the 'down'?

Now a Coach wrote:

Typical runner or sockpuppet wrote:

[quote]Picnic Hiker wrote:

Because dominating "the ulra scene" is like being the smartest kid on the short bus. At the end of the day your still a retard.

A retard who makes $10,000 per race.

How many ultras pay $10K?

I have no idea, but this thread is about Sage winning 10k in the North Face 50.

Sam Tshabalala wrote:

Comrades pays $35,000 for first with 35k available for a course record.

A top 5 American receives more than that in appearance fees in Boston, NY, and Chicago. The fact that you consider that big money speaks volumes about how small the sport is.

Chump Change wrote:

Sam Tshabalala wrote:

Comrades pays $35,000 for first with 35k available for a course record.

A top 5 American receives more than that in appearance fees in Boston, NY, and Chicago. The fact that you consider that big money speaks volumes about how small the sport is.

How much does 23rd American ger?

george313232 wrote:

they have different body type than the elite marathoners:

Which is just another proof that these people aren't serious runners.

The mods should redirect all threads that contain the word "ultra" to letsjog.com.

No, i imagine they come in all shapes and sizes. Maybe the point was the really skinny guys couldn't hold up to a 50 mile trek up and down hills? But the rbull guy KM is pretty slim, no?

Well, this guy is not built like a typical distance runner.

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fQ3g50wl9kk/Aviva+London+Grand+Prix+Samsung+Diamond+League/LXDw7B1OZkm/Craig+Mottram

Neither is this guy...

http://www.letsrun.com/photos/2013/stanford-payton-jordan/imagepages/image7.php

Are they "serious runners"?

Yes: 110 Sage Canaday 21 Sheridan, OR Cornell University DNF

Really Talented wrote:

Was Sage really the youngest runner in the Olympic Trials in 2007? I read it in everything that he puts his name on but I can NOT find his name in the results? Did he drop out or is it a mistake? I can't believe that 7 years after a race that you DNF'd that it would still be something that is on your resume? I am sure that it must be a mistake.

Picnic Hiker wrote

At the end of the day your still a retard.

This is just perfect. Thank you - I can now die happy.

Sage Canaday is not, and never was, an elite road racer. Some would say he isn't even an elite Ultra runner since he has never run a 100 mile race.Besides, he looks like a walking billboard with his stupid outfits...You have been fapping to his videos for too long.

average guy wrote:

There was a time when ultrarunning was the last bastion of the hard-working, non-gifted runner. When guys who were D3 nobodies but were willing to work and suffer could win races.

The winner of The North Face 50, Sage Canaday has run a sub-15 5k, sub-30 10k, and a 2:16 marathon. Meaning there's basically no hope for the runners who didn't win the genetic lottery to compete in ultras anymore.

Will we see 250 mile races? Will obstacle course races become more than a joke? What happens next?

Are you kidding? Craig Mottram is skinny as f**k in person. He is about 155 pounds but about 6'2".....Not built due to his height, maybe...but he has the weight and proportions.

Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:

Well, this guy is not built like a typical distance runner.

http://www.zimbio.com/pictures/fQ3g50wl9kk/Aviva+London+Grand+Prix+Samsung+Diamond+League/LXDw7B1OZkm/Craig+Mottram

Neither is this guy...

http://www.letsrun.com/photos/2013/stanford-payton-jordan/imagepages/image7.php

Are they "serious runners"?