I know you don't have the g-nads to do anything. All those (these?) American Olympians includes everyone, winners, losers, and non-medalers. Is every American Olympian now a winner?
The topic is not about the Olympics. It is about winning a global track medal. Winning means first place. But, Americans insist on 2nd and 3rd place meaning an American is a winner. What about 4th place and lower? Do losers start at 4th place in America?
I meant that he will never get a world medal, as in finish in the top 3 at worlds or olympics. But you're all missing the big point I was trying to make. If you want to be ready to race in July/August, you don't need to be racing your ass off in February.
look out jager wrote:
I meant that he will never get a world medal, as in finish in the top 3 at worlds or olympics. But you're all missing the big point I was trying to make. If you want to be ready to race in July/August, you don't need to be racing your ass off in February.
Racing in February has no correlation to racing in August. The only reason the kenyans aren't racing indoors is since they don't have indoor tracks in Kenya.
Knot why wrote:
I know you don't have the g-nads to do anything. All those (these?) American Olympians includes everyone, winners, losers, and non-medalers. Is every American Olympian now a winner?
The topic is not about the Olympics. It is about winning a global track medal. Winning means first place. But, Americans insist on 2nd and 3rd place meaning an American is a winner. What about 4th place and lower? Do losers start at 4th place in America?
Stop it. You´re making yourself look silly. You´re one of those guys who refuse to admit that you were wrong and will paint yourself in a corner with more and more absurd arguments just to defend your stupidities.
Knot why wrote:
Rupp has never won either. Unless, you count second place as "winning."
If only Olympic/World Gold Medalists were considered successful runners there would be very few successful runners, And if that's the standard for success then there is really no reason for anyone to run competitively.
Grow up.
Rupp, Jager, Centrowitz, Ron Clarke, Marty Liquari ... are/were all successful.
look out jager wrote:
I meant that he will never get a world medal, as in finish in the top 3 at worlds or olympics. But you're all missing the big point I was trying to make. If you want to be ready to race in July/August, you don't need to be racing your ass off in February.
What about in a few years, say, after Ezekiel Kemboi and those others (like the French Algerian guy) retire?
look out jager wrote:
I meant that he will never get a world medal, as in finish in the top 3 at worlds or olympics. But you're all missing the big point I was trying to make. If you want to be ready to race in July/August, you don't need to be racing your ass off in February.
Indoor world record holders Kenenisa Bekele and Hicham El Guerrouj somehow managed to race in February and still win World and Olympic titles.
SilverMedaI wrote:
Knot why wrote:Rupp has never won either. Unless, you count second place as "winning."
Yes, getting second at the Olympics counts as winning a medal. I'm surprised you didn't know that.
4/10. Not a very impressive attempt but you still managed a few bites through your general intransigence and misspelling of the word medal, so I have to give you some credit.
Kim_Putnam_Eagan wrote:
Knot why wrote:Win means win, not lose. Win means Gold, not silver, bronze, or a finisher's medal.
So anything not on the podium is a spectrum of finisher's medals, eh? So all these American "Olympians" who had no chance at the medal stand but capitalize (i.e. shamelessly exploit) on their "Olympian" status their whole endorsement lives, are "pathetic finishers?" Something tells me you wouldn't have the nads a day in your life to call them out in person, and in fact are more likely to get caught waiting in line to get autographs and gush over in their presence. Hah!
Andrew Wheating being the example. Never did he one a metal at an Olympics. But he sure capitalized.
If Wheating capitalized on the gold and silver markets, then he has no need for a metal medal from a track meet. He is winning already if he capitalized properly.
TrackCoach wrote:
It's almost like there is a 'stupid' computer somewhere that automatically generates a stupid Letsrun thread on average twice a week.
Pretty sure there's a room with 1000 monkeys in it that generates a lot of these posts...
Hughes is a tough (!) racer and handles the barriers very well (his steeple training videos on Flotrack have a lot of great advice on that). He has made some impressive improvements but recall that Jager is an excellent 1500 and 5000 runner as well. I think Jager has a great shot at a medal in the steeple. Basically a 13-flat guy who takes the barriers with no deceleration.
Knot why wrote:
Rupp has never won either. Unless, you count second place as "winning."
The title is about winning a global track medal.
2nd place in the Olympics is the Silver Medal, which would qualify as a track medal.
But, you don't "win" a medal. You win a track race. There is only one winner per race.
But you don't "win" a track race. You win at life, and there is only one winner per universe.
Don't Wynn wrote:
But, you don't "win" a medal. You win a track race. There is only one winner per race.
Yes you do. You 'win' an Olympic medal. If you have an issue with this, please petition the news/media outlets as well as the athletes and coaches who utilize this verbiage.
So, a race that awards finisher's medals to every finisher means that they are all winners, even if there are thousands of them? :-\
Some of you need to refresh your understanding of the word "win."
"To get possession of by effort"
I think you can get possession of an Olympic medal by effort.
Finisher's Medal wrote:
So, a race that awards finisher's medals to every finisher means that they are all winners, even if there are thousands of them? :-
You really that dumb? They are winners of finisher medals (so... finishers). They are not winners of the race. Or winners of medals awarded to the top finishers/age group winners. Or winners of the post-race raffle. Or winners of the lottery. Or winners of the game of Scrabble I had a few weeks ago.
"To get possession of by effort" means a hobby-jogger completing a "run", and winning a finisher's medal.
Did you just claim that a race can have multiple winners? There is only one winner in a race. Any runner knows this to be true.