Bingo.
Bingo.
unemployed wrote:
SoFrustrated wrote:No contact from coaches or school! She is heartbroken and I'm pissed!
YOU are pissed because the unemployed coaches have not contacted your daughter?
I'd be pissed because your daughter will have a free education and the coaches who gave her the opportunity are now unemployed. Maybe YOU should contact the coaches with your condolences.
Thats not the way it works. His daughter won't have a free education. Since the sport no longer exists said education goes back to being full price.
Have you seen the track? It costs nothing, nada, zip to maintain it. They have done no maintainence on that track in years and years.
As for people going to watch beach volleyball. Don't make me laugh. I am a horny old man and I would not go. I can go down to wrightsville and check out all the young ladies I want and catch a few waves to boot.
Maybe they should grow some nuts like UAB and dump basketball. Hell season tickets are like $50 and they can't give them away at Goodwill. Basketball most probably loses more money than track even though track does not generate anything.
Hell they are keeping womens cross country. Who will coach that after they just let 4 coaches go? Maybe there is an opening in the future for somebody who want to make 5k a year on a part time basis.
The running community can respond to this disgraceful action and the indefensible way it was handled and announced in one of two ways:
1) We can fill up our message boards with endless discussion of how wrong, unfair, and illogical the decision is (all of which are true); lament how many times it's happened around the country; feel sorry for all the profoundly affected coaches, athletes, and recruits; and continue to worry about the health of our sport at the collegiate level. To date, this approach has done nothing to alleviate the problem. In short, we're just talking to each other.
2) Or, we can use this as a call to action. The poster NCProud had the right idea. He tried to discourage an athlete from going to UNCW because the school had already tried to kill the program once before. It was only a matter of time before they would finish the job.
Our sport's media (in particular LetsRun) has done a great job of using the internet to affect the mainstream media, and in some cases to effect change. Let's use our resources to spread the word in a constructive and forward looking way, instead of just crying in our beer about what's already happened. Let's use the single most powerful force the internet and social media have in their arsenal -- shame.
We should compile a black list or dishonor roll of all the schools that have dropped cross country and/or track and field. Display it prominently on as many running related websites as possible. Compile a similar list of any schools that have even talked about killing their programs, or where it has even been rumored the program might be in jeopardy. Put the athletic departments in the position of having to confirm or deny on the record.
Our first goal should be to bring as much exposure and pressure on athletic and school administrations as possible. Let them know that if they take this step the consequences to their image and reputation will go beyond just the limited number of immediately affected athletes and coaches.
But our second goal must be to serve our community by warning all high school runners and track and field athletes who the villains are, and who the next suspected villains might be. We need to teach them the importance of, and how to do, proper research not just on a school's running program, but also on it's athletic department.
Let's stop feeling sorry for ourselves and our sport.
Let's take some serious action.
The CAA conference has what 2 or 3 mens teams now - UNCW, Delaware, JMU have been all cut in the past few years.
TLW wrote:
The CAA conference has what 2 or 3 mens teams now - UNCW, Delaware, JMU have been all cut in the past few years.
It's a dying sport.
Womens Beach Volleyball is a NCAA sport? Since when? I'm way out of the loop!
I have a personal relationship with every coach on staff at UNCW. Trust me when I tell you that they were not in a position to tell your family about what was going to happen. Just this week the athletic department contacted hundreds of alumni asking for our yearly donations to the program (which many gave) which we believed to be a step toward keeping track and field. This move was more than unexpected. Everyone knew that men's track was hanging by a thread but to cut the women's program also? No words. Be patient with the coaches. Four people were just told they were getting fired last night. Many of them have kids and families they need to support.
What they lacked was the leadership to work through this like the swim team had with Dave Allen.
It's a shame, but they are partly to blame. The handwriting has been on the wall for a few years.
TLW wrote:
The CAA conference has what 2 or 3 mens teams now - UNCW, Delaware, JMU have been all cut in the past few years.
For men's down to 5. W&M, Northeastern, Elon, College of Charleston, Hofstra.
Men's track, W&M and Northeastern are all that remain.
I made it in my will a year ago to give 250k to Uncw when I pass. I emailed the a.d. today that will be going to the high school I attended. Not putting up with this.
Just think of all the money that will saved when they shut down UNC's football and basketball teams because of the athletic/academic scandal over there.
Should go to restoring UNCW's athletic teams.
In the original post the AD said that scholarships will be honored until the students graduation. I guess we'll see what they decide to honor.
Thats not the way it works. His daughter won't have a free education. Since the sport no longer exists said education goes back to being full price.[/quote]
"Sand Volleyball" is becoming a NCAA sport?
really?
It's actually pretty ironic because I was thinking about applying/running there next year. I guess I dodged a bullet.
CAAcoach wrote:
TLW wrote:The CAA conference has what 2 or 3 mens teams now - UNCW, Delaware, JMU have been all cut in the past few years.
For men's down to 5. W&M, Northeastern, Elon, College of Charleston, Hofstra.
Men's track, W&M and Northeastern are all that remain.
As a former CAA runner it is really sad to see what that conference has become. In a country where obesity is the number #1 health issue we continually cut endurance sports which is the last thing that we need. I used to look forward to the opening spring track meet @ UNCW, feel sorry for those athletes who are losing their program just like we lost ours years ago (Towson).
TGI wrote:
Thats simply wrong.
I coach at a private D-1 school who is having trouble with enrollment (filling that last 5-10% each year is becoming more difficult as costs rise and students eventually choose public, 2year, trade and other educational routes.
UNCW is not a private school that dropped track
Temple is not a private school
Delaware is not a private school
Radford is not a private school
JMU is not a private school
Towson is not a private school
Ohio is not a private school
Bowling Green is not a private school
(Maryland is not a private school that dropped and then saved men's track)
Robert Morris is a private school that dropped track
Richmond is private
Seton Hall is private
[/quote]They said so... wrote:
In the original post the AD said that scholarships will be honored until the students graduation. I guess we'll see what they decide to honor.
Thats not the way it works. His daughter won't have a free education. Since the sport no longer exists said education goes back to being full price.
They will honor people who are currently enrolled on schoalrship. The guy above who had a daughter was not on scholarship yet, she was going to be.
As for that. If I am not mistaken the last time I chatted with the head coach I am pretty sure he told me he was only funded for 3 scholarships on the mens side. That in itself is pretty pathetic that he has been expected to compete in all 3 sports with just 3 full rides.
UNCW will now sponsor 15 sports: six men's programs (soccer, basketball, baseball, tennis, golf, swimming and diving); and nine women's programs (soccer, cross country, volleyball, basketball, softball, tennis, golf, swimming and diving, and eventually sand volleyball).
This is all because of Title IX.
I'm not sure why that matters.
They are all going to see the same problems given their size and academic profile.
Great interview with Steve Cram - says Jakob has no chance of WRs this year
I’m a D2 female runner. Our coach explicitly told us not to visit LetsRun forums.
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