They went and done it wrote:
Because they are all just as arrogant and annoying as the OP. Try to keep up!
Oh, the irony!
They went and done it wrote:
Because they are all just as arrogant and annoying as the OP. Try to keep up!
Oh, the irony!
They went and done it wrote:
Try to keep up wrote:I live in NE and listen to sports radio regularly. I can honestly say you have no idea what you are talking about. Sure we love Brady, but also Belichick, Wilfork, Gronk, Ninkovitch, etc. And look at all the old school jerseys at any Pats game...Bruschi, Law, Milloy. Don't tell me there's no love for the D.
He is correct. Pats fans speak out of both sides of their mouth. First, they say that the Pats are the most complete and most dominant team in the NFL. However, when someone says that the completeness of the team is why they are so successful, they get offended and have to defend Brady. When someone says Brady is good, they get all hissy and say that the HC is the best ever. They are annoying, arrogant and I left off this part in my other post: inconsistent in their arguments.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Your jealousy is epitomized by the fact you have to make up shit.
Pats fans are extremely proud of our TEAM. Yes, we have the best coach and QB, but we're smart enough to know that it takes a TEAM to be as successful as our team has been.
dial it up wrote:
U R A MORON wrote:Touchdowns:
Favre: 508
Manning: 525
Interceptions:
Favre: 336!!!
Manning: 228
Touchdowns/Interception
Favre: 1.5
Manning: 2.3
I am sorry, but when Manning is fully 50% better than you, you suck
Please just lie down before you hurt yourself.
Just wanna make sure that I understand your point, your point is: He isn't as good as Peyton Manning in your opinion, so that must mean he, as you so eloquently put it, "sucks." Is that the argument you are going with?
No.
Are you having a hard time understanding the difference between someone not being as good as and someone not being within the same galaxy as. Is that the difficulty you are having?
Fine I'll sunmarize for you: You chose one statistic, said if manning is better than someone by 50% or more in regards to that particular statistic, then that someone sucks. I was trying to find where I said Favre is better than Manning, but couldn't seem to find it then I remembered that you made it up. I made a comparison about one of the best QB's to play the game, you randomly attacked that QB likely due to your inability to put personal bias aside in a debate, then I made you look like an idiot. Now you can't come up with anything of substance to refute my points and I'm bored with you.
Anyways, back to the question: Is there anyone who takes more crap from people despite being one of the better QB's in the league than Romo? He is completing just under 70% of his passes with 8 TD's and 0 interceptions in the past three games while 60% healthy. 2nd best QB rating in the league behind Rodgers.
This Man wrote:
CoachJD wrote:It's Alex Smith. He wins. He may not have the pedigree, but he consistently wins and hasn't had much for an o-line or an outside receiver at KC.
This is a good answer.
Yes...
In what world is a guy with only 13 TD's (NONE to a receiver) and a QBR of 53.2 the most underrated quarterback in the league?
boss302 wrote:
To be honest, Matt Ryan. Just because his team sucks, nobody pays attention to him
Seconded.
Most underrated: Romo, Alex Smith, Luck, Matt Ryan
Most overrated: Russell Wilson, he's middle of the pack at best for starters. People make him out like he's a top 5 QB, which he clearly is not. I'd rather have Tannehill, Orton, Palmer, Luck, Brees, Rivers, Brady, Roethlisberger, , Manning, Romo, Rodgers etc who all have a much better QBR than Wilson & most of these QBs don't have near the rusher to depend on to run the offense for them.
The guy by the water cooler on Monday morning
vsvs wrote:
boss302 wrote:To be honest, Matt Ryan. Just because his team sucks, nobody pays attention to him
Seconded.
Again, you can't just pull it out of your ass without any stats to back it up. Ryan leads a 4-7 team and has a QBR of 63.
nais wrote:
Most underrated: Romo, Alex Smith, Luck, Matt Ryan
Most overrated: Russell Wilson, he's middle of the pack at best for starters. People make him out like he's a top 5 QB, which he clearly is not. I'd rather have Tannehill, Orton, Palmer, Luck, Brees, Rivers, Brady, Roethlisberger, , Manning, Romo, Rodgers etc who all have a much better QBR than Wilson & most of these QBs don't have near the rusher to depend on to run the offense for them.
Luck is a decent answer. He leads the league in passing yards, however that is mostly due to a lack of running game. He is tied for 4th most interceptions in the league, ranks only 15th in completion percentage, his yards per attempt are 0.75 behind Romo and Rodgers, and his rating is 12 points behind Romo. We already dispelled Ryan and Smith, so boom /thread. Answer Romo.
Easily Ryan. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant about football.
NFL xpert wrote:
Easily Ryan. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant about football.
Feel free to explain...I've already provided my reasons for not considering Ryan, I'd love you to refute it. If you take away two games against Tampa and New Orleans(some of the worst passing defenses in the league) he only has 13 TD's compared to 9 INT's. His numbers are middle of the pack despite playing in one of the NFL's worst divisions in history where the leader is 4-7.
Thats what I thought.
dial it up wrote:
NFL xpert wrote:Easily Ryan. Anyone who says otherwise is ignorant about football.
Feel free to explain...I've already provided my reasons for not considering Ryan, I'd love you to refute it. If you take away two games against Tampa and New Orleans(some of the worst passing defenses in the league) he only has 13 TD's compared to 9 INT's. His numbers are middle of the pack despite playing in one of the NFL's worst divisions in history where the leader is 4-7.
Why would you not count two games? Your artificially skewing the data in favor if your position.
Brady is actually the most over rated QB in the NFL.
HUH?? wrote:
dial it up wrote:Feel free to explain...I've already provided my reasons for not considering Ryan, I'd love you to refute it. If you take away two games against Tampa and New Orleans(some of the worst passing defenses in the league) he only has 13 TD's compared to 9 INT's. His numbers are middle of the pack despite playing in one of the NFL's worst divisions in history where the leader is 4-7.
Why would you not count two games? Your artificially skewing the data in favor if your position.
It's because he is a moron.
Another vote for Romo. Now that the defense isn't the worst in the NFL and that he actually has a decent running game to help take some of the pressure off of him, he may have one of the best QB ratings of his career this year.
HUH?? wrote:
dial it up wrote:Feel free to explain...I've already provided my reasons for not considering Ryan, I'd love you to refute it. If you take away two games against Tampa and New Orleans(some of the worst passing defenses in the league) he only has 13 TD's compared to 9 INT's. His numbers are middle of the pack despite playing in one of the NFL's worst divisions in history where the leader is 4-7.
Why would you not count two games? Your artificially skewing the data in favor if your position.
Because it shows a more true representation of him and his team in the context of the NFL as a whole as opposed to just the teams that they play within their division (which is the worst division in the HISTORY OF THE NFL).
Lets include those games: he has 9 interceptions, 19 touchdowns, a 65.1 completion %, a rating of 92.5, 7.23 yards per attempt, and his team is 4-7 in the worst division ever.
Compare that with: 6 interceptions (4 of those in one game where he could barely move), 22 touchdowns, 68.8 completion %, a rating of 111.4, 8.54 yards per attempt, and his team is 8-3 in first place in their division.
The 2nd quarterback actually takes more negative heat than the first. You tell me how I am the idiot for telling you the correct answer to the OP's question is Romo and you say Matt Ryan. Please refute my claims with something of substance as opposed to your normal porous argument littered with small man's name calling.
Kyle Orton - hands down. At the beginning of the season, no one would have had him in the top 50 QBs. I think he was about ready to retire. He comes off the bench, and now has thrown for 65.4% completion avg, 1810 yards, 12 TD, 3 INT.