Something for Hodge to chew on.

Principle #1 of the Moroccan training program - EPO. Why do you think they call El Guerrouj "The Juice"?

Obviously this is a very important facet of the Moroccan program as expatriate Moroccans that have ended up in Belgium and France also adhere to it.

The view of what is proper training has been extremely skewed by drugs.

Hissou apparently altered his arm action to hide the track marks from shooting up with EPO. Only later were the benefits to his new style realized. Of course then they weren't sure which had more benefit. The EPO or the arm action. I guess you could give EPO credit for the style change as well.

Guest,

Thank you so much for this morsel to chew on, I feel hardly enlightened.

>In Brussels in 1995, when Hissou broke Skah's Moroccan 10,000m record with 27:09.30, we thought he should have run much faster in the last two km, but he got tired....<

Yes I recognize this, when I get tired my biomechanics break down. Now with the aid of sCiEnCe I know that I must improve my biomechanics. Excellent!

Hodgie-san wrote:

Guest,

Thank you so much for this morsel to chew on, I feel hardly enlightened.

Excellent!

You really DON'T get it, do you?

You don't want to get it.

God help any youngster who listens to someone with your shitty attitude about what it takes to give yourself the best opportunity to succeed in the modern world.

REAL-WORLD, TRIAL-AND-ERROR "SCIENCE": Lydiard... screw the treadmill tests and start testing on the trails, roads, and track where it REALLY matters...

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You really DON'T get it, do you?

You don't want to get it.

God help any youngster who listens to someone with your shitty attitude about what it takes to give yourself the best opportunity to succeed in the modern world.[/quote]

Guest,

You are putting an awful lot of faith into running. After all these years, I thought that an education was the best path to success.

You find what works best for the individual athlete. High mileage works for many, an emphasis on speed works others. Why are you "up and locked" on one system to the exclusion of others? Hodgie espouses big miles because it worked for him and countless others. If quality interval work were the true path, wouldn't American high schools produce the best runners on the planet each year? If high intensity reps were the only answer, no one would have heard of Arthur Lydiard and we would all be worshipping Mihaly Igloi. I don't know who you are but, Hodgie carries more credibility because we know what his approach has produced results. Same goes for Malmo, JK, Lydiard, etc.

look, Hodgie's high school pr in the 2 mile was only 9:17

and then he ran like mad, had a great coach who knew what he was doing (Squires), and half-decent training partners (Meyer, Rodgers) . . . and poof a consistent 2:12-2:15 guy. All of our current guys come from such high HS and college pedigrees, and yet they are at a similar level. That's how Hodgie-San gets to talk and I listen. Cool ?