I agree.
I agree.
It is NOT about the final conflict. By that time, they both were too mad to back down. Brown went into a gun fight armed only with his fists, bad choice.
It is about Brown firing as he exited the cruiser. What was he possibly thinking?
Caused Brown to charge him?????
That is laughable. Brown caused the entire situation by attacking the office in the first place.
If you think a cop cannot defend himself from a person charging him, after he has already assaulted the officer, you obviously do not know what you are talking about.
Ask ANY POLICE OFFICER. A cop firing a shot at you does not give you the right to charge at him. If you do that, he will keep firing, as happened in this case. If Brown had stopped and truly surrendered, the cop would have stopped firing.
mkva-oiavon wrote:
It is about Brown firing as he exited the cruiser. What was he possibly thinking?
Brown did not have a gun, and he was not driving a cruiser.
Incorrect!! If Brown had charged the officer and the office subsequently recovered, THEN the officer could shoot again. There are no cheat codes in real life, buddy.
Evidently, this wasn't Brown's first violent episode. As a juvenile, he was charged with second degree murder. On the other hand, the officer had no complaints on his record despite evidently having a difficult childhood.
head to Seattle and New Jersey wrote:
Read up on Ali Muhammad Brown. Maybe the media can head to New Jersey and Seattle and provide national attention to his crimes.
The story I read about that man is disgusting. Not really surprised it hasn't gotten widespread national media attention. It involves a black man, not to mention a Muslim, gunning down complete strangers. A jhidast attacking innocent Americans doesn't fit the national media's narrative.
"Brown did not have a gun, and he was not driving a cruiser."
OK, stupid mistake but if you are so smart, tell me, why did Wilson think he needed to fire the first shot after he exited the cruiser?
OP, I'm pretty sure the only reason the media people are leaving Ferguson is because they are in danger from the police department. Look what they did to this poor guy: http://dailycurrant.com/2014/08/20/ferguson-police-behead-american-journalist-2/
I will not support the police officer because he was bad at his job. Assuming the rumors (unconfirmed) about Michael Brown giving the cop an orbital fracture are true, assuming he "reached for his gun" (he didn't get it), assuming every worse possible, rumored, unconfirmed scenario, one fact still stands:
The cop couldn't avoid shooting an unarmed suspect. Furthermore, he had to shoot him six times, once in the head.
By any standard of police work, this guy is a terrible cop who is a danger to people.
1) He had to resort to deadly force against an unarmed person when he was in a freaking car to begin with (according to the cop).
2) He had to fire six times, not once.
3) He is a bad shot. You don't shoot people in the head when trying to disarm them.
Terrible cop
I think a good example to use as a comparison for this is if someone breaks into your home with the intent to cause harm to you and your family. If this happens you have all the legal right to shoot and kill that person. Same thing with this officer. He was charged by possibly a bigger man and fired upon him before getting shanked. It is more than common to carry homemade weapons like that in those neighborhoods (regardless of race) and it would not be a crazy thought for an officer to be concerned this might happen to him in a scrum. If the kid withdrew then that's his fault for charging in the first place.
If someone breaks into your home, punches and stabs your wife/kids in the kidneys and then drops the weapon, backs up and says I'm sorry would you really not take his head off? If anyone answers they would not doing anything then you should question your manhood.
Simple Justice wrote:
I will not support the police officer because he was bad at his job. Assuming the rumors (unconfirmed) about Michael Brown giving the cop an orbital fracture are true, assuming he "reached for his gun" (he didn't get it), assuming every worse possible, rumored, unconfirmed scenario, one fact still stands:
The cop couldn't avoid shooting an unarmed suspect. Furthermore, he had to shoot him six times, once in the head.
By any standard of police work, this guy is a terrible cop who is a danger to people.
1) He had to resort to deadly force against an unarmed person when he was in a freaking car to begin with (according to the cop).
2) He had to fire six times, not once.
3) He is a bad shot. You don't shoot people in the head when trying to disarm them.
Terrible cop
Wow, so if a 6'4", 300 pound man charges a policeman, he doesn't have the right to kill him? I think you should become a policeman. Evidently, you are a tough guy and have it all figured out. You probably wouldn't last a week in the inner city.
konami code wrote:
remove head wrote:Caused Brown to charge him?????
That is laughable. Brown caused the entire situation by attacking the office in the first place.
If you think a cop cannot defend himself from a person charging him, after he has already assaulted the officer, you obviously do not know what you are talking about.
Ask ANY POLICE OFFICER. A cop firing a shot at you does not give you the right to charge at him. If you do that, he will keep firing, as happened in this case. If Brown had stopped and truly surrendered, the cop would have stopped firing.
Incorrect!! If Brown had charged the officer and the office subsequently recovered, THEN the officer could shoot again. There are no cheat codes in real life, buddy.
cheat codes??? Stay in your basement playing video games. The adults are having a conversation.
fyi boys, even the cops are now saying the cop shot at brown as brown was running away. in other words, the cops agree that the cop shot AT brown's back..but missed.
Brown then turned around for some reason and subsequently was shot 6 times.
So the question is...brown is standing 10 feet away from the cop. Why does cop shoot brown at that point? Distance had been established.
Seems like murder to me at this point.
although lord knows - fighting with a cop will get you killed - how stupid do you have to be to fight with a cop?
but cop should not shoot someone 10 feet away and not a threat. no way.
As Officer Wilson got out of his car, the men were running away. The officer fired his weapon but did not hit anyone, according to law enforcement officials.
Violent history wrote:
Evidently, this wasn't Brown's first violent episode. As a juvenile, he was charged with second degree murder.
Source?
Was he found guilty?
5 unarmed black men have been killed by police in the past month.
And how many in just Chicago, just this week, by non cops?
Let's be real here.
not surprising wrote:
head to Seattle and New Jersey wrote:Read up on Ali Muhammad Brown. Maybe the media can head to New Jersey and Seattle and provide national attention to his crimes.
The story I read about that man is disgusting. Not really surprised it hasn't gotten widespread national media attention. It involves a black man, not to mention a Muslim, gunning down complete strangers. A jhidast attacking innocent Americans doesn't fit the national media's narrative.
Last I checked Fox news is a national media source and this would fit their narrative perfectly. But there really isn't much to report on there.
What is a lot of fun is that when the opposite cases happen (black cop shoots white man), it is amazing how often the conservatives feel that the police officer should have used better judgement and overlooked the provocation of the the civilian.
breight leight wrote:
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LOL. Don't mind if I borrow that one from time to time, do you?
NOWHERE does it say the cops say he shot at Brown while he was running away. Don't let your blind racist liberal bias get in the way of your reading comprehension.