charity wrote:
Now Stewart is going to race again today. "It's business as usual" said his manager.
I'm not sure I'd be able to get back in a race car the next day after killing someone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2721039/Manager-Tony-Stewart-race-NY-accident.htmlPlus he's not even having that good of a year since he's in 22nd. Take the weekend off.
WBNG-TV Action News
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The team announced mid-morning Stewart is withdrawing from the race at Watkins Glen today.
runn wrote:
charity wrote:Now Stewart is going to race again today. "It's business as usual" said his manager.
I'm not sure I'd be able to get back in a race car the next day after killing someone.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2721039/Manager-Tony-Stewart-race-NY-accident.htmlPlus he's not even having that good of a year since he's in 22nd. Take the weekend off.
WBNG-TV Action News
29 mins · Edited ·
The team announced mid-morning Stewart is withdrawing from the race at Watkins Glen today.
Yeah, "another man's shoes" posted that on here 2 hours ago, but thanks for the update.
I know nothing about car racing, but it looks like Stewart deliberately swerved to hit him. But perhaps he was avoiding a collision with the car in front. Men, cars,testosterone--thank goodness that we are runners.
He probably gunned it to dry to get by before the guy did whatever was attempting to do.
The cars naturally drift on the curves.
Captain Oblivious wrote:
The cars naturally drift on the curves.
Except when they're going 25 mph under a caution.
Stewart has had anger management issues in the past. The past incidents will not help him defend his actions, or lack thereof, in this situation.
It may possibly the Ward (the driver whose vehicle he bumped) may be considered at fault for STANDING ON THE TRACK while vehicles were still moving...caution flag or not.
I was once politely invited to a NASCAR event (not this dirt-track style competition). I actually fell asleep while the race was ongoing...I was so bored with it.
This is black eye for car racing of ANY variety.
factoid wrote:
I was once politely invited to a NASCAR event (not this dirt-track style competition). I actually fell asleep while the race was ongoing...I was so bored with it.
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Yet you probably have watched a marathon before. Hmmmm
I've been watching marathons for decades, Sonny.
Never fell asleep watching any of them.
factoid wrote:
I've been watching marathons for decades, Sonny.
Never fell asleep watching any of them.
Good for you. It's a boring as f*ck thing to watch. Don't talk sh*t bro.
Couple interesting reports from people who were in the stands. Stewart belongs in jail.
Also consider that Tony has a long history of trying to teach young guys a lesson & getting back at other drivers. I wonder how much NASCAR may pour into this story to make it disappear.
Tyler Graves, a sprint-car racer and friend of Ward's, told Sporting News in a phone interview that he was sitting in the Turn 1 grandstands and saw everything that happened.
"Tony pinched him into the frontstretch wall, a racing thing," Graves said. "The right rear tire went down, he spun on the exit of (Turn) 2. They threw the caution and everything was toned down. Kevin got out of his car. … He was throwing his arms up all over the place at Tony for most of the corner.
"I know Tony could see him. I know how you can see out of these cars. When Tony got close to him, he hit the throttle. When you hit a throttle on a sprint car, the car sets sideways. It set sideways, the right rear tire hit Kevin, Kevin was sucked underneath and was stuck under it for a second or two and then it threw him about 50 yards."
Rich Willis, who was at the track, said he didn’t see exactly what happened but his sister down in Turn 1 did. His description was similar to that of Graves and video of the tragedy showed Stewart's car hitting Ward.
“People (who could see it better) said the guy got out of his car and was gesturing angrily at Tony Stewart when Tony Stewart came by during the next lap under yellow,” Willis said in a phone interview. “He approached him and evidently when he was driving by the guy standing on the track gesturing at him, he gunned his engine.
“What happened was the back end kicked out and clipped the guy and the guy flew across the track.”
Those who are saying matter-of-factly that Stewart targeted Ward Jr and gunned it are the scum of our society
lorper wrote:
Those who are saying matter-of-factly that Stewart targeted Ward Jr and gunned it are the scum of our society
Tony Stewart is the scum of our society.
as "rubbins racin" quoted from the article, all true aspect to dirt track. clearly indy lights are vastly diff from dirt track but I've played on dirt tracks as well and can verify the following:
when you drill the accelerator on a sprint/midget car, the car gets sideways
when all the other cars are easing through a caution flag & one single car guns it, yes you can hear that car "all the way" across the track. across the neighborhood, actually.
despite sh**y views from the cockpit, Stewart could very clearly see Ward, as he was squared up to him.
Ward was stupid to walk out there, but it's interesting that stewart has done the exact same thing (as have many other drivers- none resulting in another driver intentionally striking them, IIRC)
Firearms are deadly. you treat them as such and be responsible with them, regardless of if you are shooting a 3gun match, speedshooting, whatever. Cars are also dangerous, and you treat them the same, regardless of how fast you're driving. When a guy cuts a tire, you check up, period.
From the looks of the first two pages of posts, most TS apologists have either never driven competitively nor have they watched the video. cut-&-dried, it was an intentional assualt w/ a deadly weapon (doesn't matter that stewart thought he would win the game of "chicken") than ended up with contact that resulted in a homocide. You don't "accidentally" drill the throttle, knowing full well that the result is a 26"+ tall tire plus wing whacking the guy you are playing chicken with. Only equitable ending is with Stewart in prison for life, sorry.
No, you stop first, please.
Thank you.
actually driven an indy light wrote:
Only equitable ending is with Stewart in prison for life, sorry.
Because that's what this country needs, MORE people in our prisons. JUSTISE 'MURICA TOUGH ON CRIME HEEHAWW
Apparently the driver, despite being familiar with automobiles, didn't realize that jumping in front of one isn't a smart idea.
It's a tragedy, but good god. This is equivalent to those people online lighting themselves on fire and getting severe burns and/or dying. What did they think was going to happen?
To me it's clear Stewart gunned his engine, but it's unclear what his motive was. He didn't gun it until he was right next to the guy on foot, so if the guy on foot got tangled up in the vehicle, I have to say it was his fault for getting that close.
Things like this are tragic and horrible because it was 100% preventable and NEVER should have happened.
smart move wrote:
Apparently the driver, despite being familiar with automobiles, didn't realize that jumping in front of one isn't a smart idea.
It's a tragedy, but good god. This is equivalent to those people online lighting themselves on fire and getting severe burns and/or dying. What did they think was going to happen?
What he thought was going to happen was that Stewart wouldn't be as psycho as he is & gun it & swerve at him. He thought that Stewart & the others had control of their car when they were driving it 25 mph while under caution. Drivers have gotten out of their cars before & kicked moving cars. It's not that unusual.
Hey Stewarts done the same & approached cars on foot who were going faster than this car was, but lets put the blame on the dead 20 year old kid.
Tony Stewart had cam recorder on the front of his car, curious what it will reveal?
rubbins racin wrote:
smart move wrote:Apparently the driver, despite being familiar with automobiles, didn't realize that jumping in front of one isn't a smart idea.
It's a tragedy, but good god. This is equivalent to those people online lighting themselves on fire and getting severe burns and/or dying. What did they think was going to happen?
What he thought was going to happen was that Stewart wouldn't be as psycho as he is & gun it & swerve at him. He thought that Stewart & the others had control of their car when they were driving it 25 mph while under caution. Drivers have gotten out of their cars before & kicked moving cars. It's not that unusual.
Hey Stewarts done the same & approached cars on foot who were going faster than this car was, but lets put the blame on the dead 20 year old kid.
That's exactly where the blame rests - with the deceased "kid". Hopefully other drivers, including Stewart, will be reminded after this accident that approaching cars on a racetrack is brainless.