So how far did Ryan Hall make it today?

Le Foot wrote:

You're right, let's go with your theory, he's probably the ultimate con man

Makes sense to me. After all, he believes in the biggest con ever foisted on humankind.

Le Foot wrote:

jason T-Rexing wrote:

How many times does Ryan Hall have to toe the starting line in "great shape" only to DNF by the halfway point before you wake up to reality?

Wow, I hope I never wake up as disturbed you

Too late.

Milano wrote:

i hate larry rawlson wrote:

Look, Hall's career downturn can be pinpointed to one single episode: when he turned to God as a coach.

I'm not being anti-religious. I'm citing historical fact.

When he turned to God he ran a 2:04:58 marathon.

Oh it was wind-aided you say? Who do you think was controlling the wind?

Checkmate, atheists.

dude, really? "god" controls the wind? Try weather patterns. And he ran the 2:04:58 before he split with Terrance and was/is being 'coached by god'. Really?

and so your saying that if 'god' turned up the wind dial on a road mile and some Muslim African ran 3:40.00 that it was god who wanted him to run that fast?

jason T-Rexing wrote:

I'm not being anti-religious. I'm citing historical fact.

It's hard to cite historical fact without being anti-religious though. Religion and facts don't gel.

+1

CARNR wrote:

Milano wrote:

When he turned to God he ran a 2:04:58 marathon.

Oh it was wind-aided you say? Who do you think was controlling the wind?

Checkmate, atheists.

dude, really? "god" controls the wind? Try weather patterns. And he ran the 2:04:58 before he split with Terrance and was/is being 'coached by god'. Really?

and so your saying that if 'god' turned up the wind dial on a road mile and some Muslim African ran 3:40.00 that it was god who wanted him to run that fast?

He was laying on the sarcasm pretty thick I don't know how you could miss that part of the post. And yes people who thank "God" for everything are actually delusional and think that God hand picked them and gave them talent to beat anyone else. They are that special. I mean forget helping a starving person on the streets there are higher purposes that normal people can't fathom. And making someone better in sports is one.

carnuy wrote:

He was laying on the sarcasm pretty thick I don't know how you could miss that part of the post. And yes people who thank "God" for everything are actually delusional and think that God hand picked them and gave them talent to beat anyone else. They are that special. I mean forget helping a starving person on the streets there are higher purposes that normal people can't fathom. And making someone better in sports is one.

But I AM special!

Also Ryan Hall getting Coached by God and performing bad puts God in a bad light.

Does this mean that God can't coach?

or that God doesn't exist and that Ryan Hall is delusional?

carnuy wrote:

Also Ryan Hall getting Coached by God and performing bad puts God in a bad light.

Does this mean that God can't coach?

or that God doesn't exist and that Ryan Hall is delusional?

God doesn't exist, so God can't be a great coach, a shitty coach or anything in between.

Hall is not doing any favors for vocal Christians by blatantly accepting appearance money knowing full well he is either going to drop out or mail it in with an injury. This is not in dispute among people with brains.

CARNR wrote:

Milano wrote:

When he turned to God he ran a 2:04:58 marathon.

Oh it was wind-aided you say? Who do you think was controlling the wind?

Checkmate, atheists.

dude, really? "god" controls the wind? Try weather patterns. And he ran the 2:04:58 before he split with Terrance and was/is being 'coached by god'. Really?

1. No it wasn't, he split up with Mahon in October 2010 and ran 2:04 in April 2011

2. WHOOSH

CARNR wrote:

And he ran the 2:04:58 before he split with Terrance and was/is being 'coached by god'. Really?

Wrong

God doesn't exist, so God can't be a great coach, a shitty coach or anything in between.

^

This!

And Hall is proving how true that statment is. As a Christian you would think he would know better he has kind of painted himself and his faith in a corner proving that it's all a sham.

huge proud atheist wrote:

Le Foot wrote:

You're right, let's go with your theory, he's probably the ultimate con man

Makes sense to me. After all, he believes in the biggest con ever foisted on humankind.

He believes in Global Warming?

Post hoc ergo propter hoc...studying logic can be burden and completely superfluous when reading LRC

VAcoach wrote:

Post hoc ergo propter hoc...studying logic can be burden and completely superfluous when reading LRC

Please explain further how the logical fallacy you mention is in place with regard to Ryan Hall. You can also explain how reading this board makes studying logic burdensome and superfluous, but I don't think that's actually what you meant to say because your study of English has been superficial at best.

Hall lost whatever credibility he might have had left as a quotable person after his post-Boston comments, which made him sound equal parts delusional and self-aggrandizing. Hopefully he still has it as a runner and can tear off one more respectable time-trial marathon, like a sub-2:08 at Chicago or something, before he hangs 'em up and becomes Sara's coach (you know that's coming at some point).

I think if he doesn't run a sub 2:10 in the next marathon or two, he'll probably retire.

His issue is that he's uncoachable. He's so focused on following God's plan that he has a serious conflict of interest should he ever want to be coached again.

Running, and marathon running especially is all about consistency. You can't live a nomadic life, keep changing coaches, and still maintain a high level of specific conditioning.

I don't know why anyone would want to coach Ryan given the kind of career moves he's made. He's proven he's irrational, unpredictable, and isn't focused on performing well. He's focused on glorifying God through running. Everyone smiled and nodded when he said that when he was posting great times, but now, you have to wonder..

why can't I, with a little scientific influence on my training, run sub 2:10??

Manchester wrote:

i hate larry rawlson wrote:

The point I'm making is he turned away from science-based coaching and has paid the price.

He's been advised by Renato Canova, Jack Daniels, and a few others, and his wife is coached by Steve Magness. So I am certain there is plenty of scientific influence in his training.

ace in the troll wrote:

why can't I, with a little scientific influence on my training, run sub 2:10??

Because you touch yourself at night.

Piano_Man87 wrote:

I don't know why anyone would want to coach Ryan given the kind of career moves he's made. He's proven he's irrational, unpredictable, and isn't focused on performing well. He's focused on glorifying God through running. Everyone smiled and nodded when he said that when he was posting great times, but now, you have to wonder..

Ever heard of injuries? The same thing that's ruined careers of Solinsky, Mosop, MacDougal, Duncan Kibet, Webb, Yego, Wariner, Lincoln, James Kwambai, and like half of all pro runners...

But for some reason Ryan Hall's injuries are a completely different situation and he must be criticized to no end about them.

Fa a wrote:

Ever heard of injuries? The same thing that's ruined careers of Solinsky, Mosop, MacDougal, Duncan Kibet, Webb, Yego, Wariner, Lincoln, James Kwambai, and like half of all pro runners...

But for some reason Ryan Hall's injuries are a completely different situation and he must be criticized to no end about them.

What is God's plan for injury prevention? Not very good, look what happened to Jesus what with the getting nailed to a cross and all.

HOWEVER, Jesus was risen from the dead after just 3 days so why is it taking God so long to heal Hall's hamstring?