Shanon Rowbury should have been DQ'd from the 5000.

New NOP trick wrote:

calm down, bro wrote:

Christ almighty, calm down. Huddle said she wasn't impeded. She called Shannon a smart racer. She then said if the roles were reversed, she would've done the same thing herself.

No, I agree with other who said that Salazar would have filed a protest. Rowbury would have no say in the protest filing.

So what? What Salazar would or wouldn't do is irrelevant. Molly clearly didn't feel a protest was warranted, and neither did her coach. In fact, it sounded like it never even crossed her mind. It's a non-issue.

Rowbury's tactic was dirty. Stop defending her. It is a sign of a weaking runner who has become a very poor sport.

She definitely would not have done the same thing, and only said that to be gracious.

I don't care for impeding other runners, it is not a honest or gracious way to run.

Molly has my respect, more than ever.

obsessed^2 wrote:

Rowbury's tactic was dirty. Stop defending her. It is a sign of a weaking runner who has become a very poor sport.

I wasn't defending her, genius; Molly Huddle was.

Molly is gracious wrote:

She definitely would not have done the same thing, and only said that to be gracious.

I don't care for impeding other runners, it is not a honest or gracious way to run.

Molly has my respect, more than ever.

Well, I respect her enough to take her at her word.

calm down, bro wrote:

Molly is gracious wrote:

She definitely would not have done the same thing, and only said that to be gracious.

I don't care for impeding other runners, it is not a honest or gracious way to run.

Molly has my respect, more than ever.

Well, I respect her enough to take her at her word.

No you don't, and you're being an ass.

Shutting the door on lane 1 is fine. Then moving out to lane 2 is the no-no. If you read the rules you are to maintain a straight line down the home straight and are locked in. Moving outside of that to impede a runner is reason for DQ.

She won and was being nice. But if you are going to race at the highest level of our sport that is minor stuff. You just need to swing way wide and go for home. People do that stuff all the time.

Thats one of the reasons I thought Shannon shouldn't have joined the NOP. Anybody training with Salazar will recieve hate and mistrust. Molly needs to toot her own horn more, She had a fantastic year, national champion, but in every interview she is like " its no big deal", she should celbrate her victories more, unless she horrible secret that eating at her conscious.

Also, watch Shannons Interview after the race by letsrun. She was all "well I beat Molly in the 3k multiple times so" I use to love her, now she is just rubbing me the wrong way. Must be the Salazar effect.

Molly is gracious wrote:

calm down, bro wrote:

Well, I respect her enough to take her at her word.

No you don't, and you're being an ass.

Well, I'm the one who believed her when she shared her feelings on the matter. You, in essence, are calling her a liar.

So no one is denying that Rowbury left lane 1 open, then cut in, then moved back out when Molly went outside, correct?

The argument that it's okay because Molly says so wasn't in the last rule book I got.

You are correct sir. The lead runner MUST maintain the line they choose coming off the last turn.

Did Rowbury do that? He'll NO

The troop be told wrote:

The lead runner MUST maintain the line they choose coming off the last turn.

Could you imagine the chaos of letting lead runners drift? What is there were other runners, besides Huddle, making a charge to pass Rowbury? A pile up would have occurred. What if there were a group of 4x400 runners charging to the last handoff, and the dying lead runner drifted across the first two lanes? Disaster!

facts is facts wrote:

So no one is denying that Rowbury left lane 1 open, then cut in, then moved back out when Molly went outside, correct?

The argument that it's okay because Molly says so wasn't in the last rule book I got.

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"calm down bro" is an idiot

obsessed^2 wrote:

Rowbury's tactic was dirty. Stop defending her. It is a sign of a weaking runner who has become a very poor sport.

I'm guessing you've never raced in Europe.

The fact is that sleazy would have protested and won. all NOPers are cheaters.

fan of US distance running wrote:

facts is facts wrote:

So no one is denying that Rowbury left lane 1 open, then cut in, then moved back out when Molly went outside, correct?

The argument that it's okay because Molly says so wasn't in the last rule book I got.

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"calm down bro" is an idiot

Well that's just, like, your opinion, man.

calm down, bro wrote:

Well, I'm the one who believed her when she shared her feelings on the matter. You, in essence, are calling her a liar.

It looks to me that you're believing yourself, not anyone else.

Molly had ample time to impede Robury through the race and never did so. The fact is that you don't have respect for someone if you're trying to justify impeding someone from doing their best. Personally I'd like the other runners to run their best, so that I can do the same thing.

It takes a broader view of the world to want everyone to do their best, rather than just yourself and not care about anyone else. That broader view is what I think Molly has.

Impartial Observer wrote:

calm down, bro wrote:

Well, I'm the one who believed her when she shared her feelings on the matter. You, in essence, are calling her a liar.

It looks to me that you're believing yourself, not anyone else.

Molly had ample time to impede Robury through the race and never did so. The fact is that you don't have respect for someone if you're trying to justify impeding someone from doing their best. Personally I'd like the other runners to run their best, so that I can do the same thing.

It takes a broader view of the world to want everyone to do their best, rather than just yourself and not care about anyone else. That broader view is what I think Molly has.

What on Earth are you talking about? I'm not justifying anything. Molly shared her feelings on the matter, and they were unequivocal. Maybe the officials should have DQed Shannon, but Molly clearly feels that a DQ wasn't warranted. She even went so far as to say that she would've done the same thing herself.

calm down, bro wrote:

Molly shared her feelings on the matter, and they were unequivocal.

Wow, you cannot possibly be so blind to not understand this.

Molly is gracious. Rowbury is a poor sport.