Official 2014 IAAF Shanghai Diamong League Discussion Thread

Hard to believe Jenny's only sub 4:00 was the 3:59.90 she ran at Pre in 2009 while in college.

Breaking 4 clearly isn't easy. Can she do it in her first big race of the year?

No one expected the sub 4 with Wetmore while in college and now she's back with Wetmore so it's possible this early in the year.

Interesting thing I noticed. All-athletics.com says Jenny's best mark ever is her 9:12.50 steeple from 2009 Worlds. Her next best is her 1500 from 2009 so on an absolute level 2009 had her 2 best performances. I don't that will be the case after this year. 3:59.9 won't cut it anymore in the women' 1500 so by the end of the year I think Jenny will be much faster.

She's gonna go fast this year, because Aregawi is going to pull her.

Kibiwot is in that race too and is coming off that blazing fast Doha 3K

I don't know what kind of shape Abeba is in right now, but I expect something special from her this year.

I don't see any reason why Jenny can't PR this season.

I have a hunch we're gonna see some really wild stuff in the 1500 and 3 this year from the women. The reason I say is because of that Doha 3. I believe Genzebe set the bar with her indoor assault, everyone went wild in training knowing they had to make up ground, and they did in Doha. And I think it wil get faster.

Just think of what Abeba is going to do if Obiri raised her level in such a way

this.

The 5000 she ran last year was 9 seconds faster than what she ran in 2009 when she ran 3:59.9. Theoretically, that is worth 3:56-3:57 if you can combine the improved endurance with the speed she showed in 2009--and combining those is Wetmore's challenge.

1902 wrote:

I have a hunch we're gonna see some really wild stuff in the 1500 and 3 this year from the women. The reason I say is because of that Doha 3. I believe Genzebe set the bar with her indoor assault, everyone went wild in *doping* knowing they had to make up ground, and they did in Doha. And I think it wil get faster.

Just think of what Abeba is going to do if Obiri raised her level in such a way

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coach d wrote:

The 5000 she ran last year was 9 seconds faster than what she ran in 2009 when she ran 3:59.9. Theoretically, that is worth 3:56-3:57 if you can combine the improved endurance with the speed she showed in 2009--and combining those is Wetmore's challenge.

an improvement in her 5000m PR only means she can run 5000m faster. it doesn't mean she can run faster at 1500m.

however, you still might be right. you're logic just wasn't.

personally i think she could run 3:58-3:59 in shanghai with good conditions, decent pacing, and 1 or 2 ladies to run with.

if they go out in 63-66 they're still close enough. the third lap just can't slack once pacers drop out, assuming they even run to 800m.

1902 wrote:

Genzebe set the bar with her indoor assault, everyone went wild in training knowing they had to make up ground

Sure. None of them had any motivation to break their PR's by 9+ seconds each before they saw Dibaba do it.

Track fans have got blinders on. Too many runners just got too much faster all at once for it to be a natural occurrence.

There will surely be more crazy times, including possibly a world record in the men's 5000 if they run for time instead of Kenya vs Ethiopia.

Simpson 3rd in 4:00.17

My prediction?

PAIN!

She had a nice 4:00.4 last summer where she led almost wire to wire. And has very good tactics, a powerful last 150m, good extended kick

She's got an excellent shot at breaking four here if she does not have to lead much of the way, as happened at world's.

reed wrote:

coach d wrote:

The 5000 she ran last year was 9 seconds faster than what she ran in 2009 when she ran 3:59.9. Theoretically, that is worth 3:56-3:57 if you can combine the improved endurance with the speed she showed in 2009--and combining those is Wetmore's challenge.

an improvement in her 5000m PR only means she can run 5000m faster. it doesn't mean she can run faster at 1500m.

however, you still might be right. you're logic just wasn't.

personally i think she could run 3:58-3:59 in shanghai with good conditions, decent pacing, and 1 or 2 ladies to run with.

if they go out in 63-66 they're still close enough. the third lap just can't slack once pacers drop out, assuming they even run to 800m.

No, his logic was fine. You just didn't understand it.

think it will be saturday to sunday's midnight in EDT when the meet starts. so 12 hours from now right?

It's only May. I don't see 3:56 by anyone. She has a 50/50 chance to win in 4:02

Aregawi is not a front-runner. She will run on should of the lead runner. Simpson also will not lead but as always she positions herself well towards the front.

If the pace is to be fast it will have to come from someone else in the field.

Aregawi: 4:01

Simpson: 4:02

Later in the season, when there are other girls who are in shape to run fast times and can set the pace, we will see Aregawi under 4 and perhaps Simpson as well.

4:02.70 for JS for 3rd

3:50.98

Dumbfk wrote:

1902 wrote:

I have a hunch we're gonna see some really wild stuff in the 1500 and 3 this year from the women. The reason I say is because of that Doha 3. I believe Genzebe set the bar with her indoor assault, everyone went wild in *doping* knowing they had to make up ground, and they did in Doha. And I think it wil get faster.

Just think of what Abeba is going to do if Obiri raised her level in such a way

Tampered, because I'm a jealous imbecile who is mad that I can't run faster than women

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