Hasay, D'ag, or Martinez?

crazy to think Alexa Efraimson has the potential to beat Jordan Hasay considering she has beaten Emma Bates and Bates was ahead of Hasay.

crazy to think Alexa Efraimson has the potential to beat Jordan Hasay considering she has beaten Emma Bates and Bates was ahead of Hasay.

come on... wrote:

Is this commentary really annoying to anyone else? Who cares what the pace is or when they are gonna pick it up. And stop saying it's gonna be a "huge neg split". I don't understand why people dislike a tactical race. All the FTP commentators are saying is that they just want to see a fast race. In my opinion, watching people run single file even split to a fast time is not that exciting. Watching surges, variations in pace, you know, a REAL race... that's exciting.

Because tactical races are rarely like that nowadays. They just jog until the last lap. No surges or variations in pace. So, no, it's not "a REAL race". It's boring. Whatever happened to fast races with surges? That's what we want to see. That's what I miss about Bekele.

Lumpy Loofer wrote:

Can you imagine an 800 WC medalist running a serious track 5K on the men's side?

If so, I'd love to know who.

Do you mean besides Aouita, who won bronze in the 800 and gold in 5k (and held the wr as well)?

Runner1048 wrote:

crazy to think Alexa Efraimson has the potential to beat Jordan Hasay considering she has beaten Emma Bates and Bates was ahead of Hasay.

That's not that crazy. Anyone can beat anyone in a slow, kicker's race. Efraimson is not beating either one in a fast race.

some already mentioned that. plus we're talking about current athletes.

sounds like Hasay really went for it from 1K out but couldn't hold on.

and what is up with Bmart???

15.34.35 is a PR for Jordan by 3 seconds.

daneer wrote:

whatthewhatthewhat wrote:

Surprised that A) the pace wasn't faster B) Jordan was only 5 seconds away from first C) Brenda was beaten by both Abbey D and Jordan

Neither A nor C is surprising.

C is quite suprising. BMart ran 15:24 in windy conditions and opening with 4:45 at Carlsbad.

She struggled to run 15:35 here. Not the best race for BMart, but who knows where she is with training or if she just had an off day.

daneer wrote:

[quote]whatthewhatthewhat wrote:

Surprised that A) the pace wasn't faster B) Jordan was only 5 seconds away from first C) Brenda was beaten by both Abbey D and Jordan

Neither A nor C is surprising.

Interesting, since Brenda beat Hasay by about 20 seconds just a few weeks ago. To me, that is surprising.

whatthewhatthewhat wrote:

Interesting, since Brenda beat Hasay by about 20 seconds just a few weeks ago. To me, that is surprising.

Correction: March 30, 2014 Carlsbad 5k

4) Brenda Martinez: 15:25

7) Jordan Hasay: 15:41

16 second difference just 3 weeks ago. So, again, yes, I would say that is surprising.

Hasay gets smoked in a rinky dink competition and people still are clinging to misguided belief she is a world beater. She is a professional (with heart of a lion) and would get smoked in a 3000 by a few American prepsters.

Cappy the Elder wrote:

Hasay gets smoked in a rinky dink competition and people still are clinging to misguided belief she is a world beater. She is a professional (with heart of a lion) and would get smoked in a 3000 by a few American prepsters.

Not many prepsters can run 15:35 5k.

Spring races can be like this--slow.

You get in your first race on the track, and you remember what a darn tough sport it is. Even after a good winter campaign, the rust buster can be tough.

Cappy the Elder wrote:

Hasay gets smoked in a rinky dink competition and people still are clinging to misguided belief she is a world beater. She is a professional (with heart of a lion) and would get smoked in a 3000 by a few American prepsters.

The Oregon coaching staff had Hasay for four years and failed to significantly improve her top speed or her endurance. And these were four years in which she basically stayed healthy since she ran 12 straight seasons.

As a fan, I find that failure frustrating and wish she had run somewhere else in college, but she seems to have enjoyed her time at Oregon, and the "basically stayed healthy" part was certainly a positive.

Whatever one may think of AlSal, he seems to be helping her improve as a 10000m runner, and I presume that he will move her up to the marathon as soon as she's able to handle the necessary training volume.

Is she ever going to win a major marathon? Probably not, but she certainly has the potential to be a consistent 2:25 - 2:30 gal, and if she gets to that level and stays there for a while, she can make some nice contender as a form of Great White Hope. There are worse fates.

oops - She can make some nice money as a form of Great White Hope.

Huddle is on another level from these girls right now.

whatthewhatthewhat wrote:

whatthewhatthewhat wrote:

Interesting, since Brenda beat Hasay by about 20 seconds just a few weeks ago. To me, that is surprising.

Correction: March 30, 2014 Carlsbad 5k

4) Brenda Martinez: 15:25

7) Jordan Hasay: 15:41

16 second difference just 3 weeks ago. So, again, yes, I would say that is surprising.

So, two athletes meet and one bests the other. Couple weeks and change later they race again and the results are different. That surprises you? Life for you must be very full of wonder indeed.

Wonder how fast Erin Finn will end up running this season. She went 15:41 and might even go faster. Could she run in the 15:30's in 2014? What a start

Anonymous Pseudonym wrote:

Huddle is on another level from these girls right now.

Hasn't Huddle been on another level from them for years now? Isn't her PR like 14:4x?