wtfunny wrote:
It's impossible to simplify a marathon like this … you're basing this on a small set of averages that vary for myriad different reasons, and then suggesting that singularly specific race is 'worth' something based on those averages.
If you want 'absolute worth', look at the clock. Anything else is conjecture; which is worth what we pay for it. :)
I agree that the conjecture is silly, but the clock is of little help in this case.
I understand the risks and impossibilities. I'm just saying that for the men in 2014, 13 seconds makes more sense than 90 seconds. And for the women in 2003, neither make sense.
wtfunny wrote:
It's impossible to simplify a marathon like this … you're basing this on a small set of averages that vary for myriad different reasons, and then suggesting that singularly specific race is 'worth' something based on those averages.
If you want 'absolute worth', look at the clock. Anything else is conjecture; which is worth what we pay for it. :)
At the time that Paula set the world record in London, the men's world record was also in London.
That makes me think it's a fats course.
Wtfunny wrote:I didn't notice the misspelled name until just now
then learn to read & find a brain, fool
i don't post simple subtraction rubbish
rekrunner wrote:People can say many things. But looks like for world record attempts, Paris is undiscovered, or underused
it's a surprisingly no cashola meet
they've had nothing but chumpchumbas running it in it's history & even stanley when he set ole course record of 2"05'12 was regarded as little more than a 2"08 chumpchumba
it's a damn quick enough course, but never had the simolians to draw some 2"03 monsta
no M major status = no beasts
ventolin^3 wrote:
it's a surprisingly no cashola meet
they've had nothing but chumpchumbas running it in it's history & even stanley when he set ole course record of 2"05'12 was regarded as little more than a 2"08 chumpchumba
it's a damn quick enough course, but never had the simolians to draw some 2"03 monsta
no M major status = no beasts
Ventolin, what kind of 10k and marathon shape do you think Bekele is in?
26'45 / 2"04-low
he couda challenged his even runtier compratriot for 3rd in london if he'd been in it, but the top 2 were a level above
i do think wilson is in currently close to 26'30 shape & stan probably not far off
do the maths for above : if kennster is ~ 26'45 / 2"04-low, if he's ~ 1'00 slower over M than wilson, over ~ 1/4 distance he's got to be ~ 15s slower as it hard to make an argument kennster's endurance can be significantly worse even on his debut seeing as he's had a decade+ of hard endurance building in his legs
i get
2"03'00 = 26'32.1
same as mo ran 3'28 off 5k/10k training, the 2"03+ guys can run 26'30+ off M training
( & probably quicker as i don't think it's possible to be a
better M runner than 10k - i don't believe humans have evolved enough to be better over 26 miles than 6
( see still oft mentioned "wall" at ~ 20 miles for a physiological "limit" for human running )
...)
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