Bernard Lagat's monday training run after a day off - 11mi @ 5:12 pace

The Master Troll wrote:Ventolin, you've said before that Farah was good for 12:45ish that day. Since Lagat ran nearly an identical race, I'd argue he was also good for 12:45. And had he run that a few years younger it's not too difficult to imagine Lagat running 12:40low

no

mo maya been in 49-high/26'30 shape

that's damn 3kwr speed :

7'18+ !

( albeit komen's '98i was probably worth

3'27+/7'17/12'33 )

bernie was shot of speed by then

( mo-3'28 speed )

bernie had too much whip in his legs

i'll get smashed to gates of hades for this, but bernie in his 3'26+ had the whip in his legs for

1'41+

after all, noah, his usual whipping boy ran 2'11wr

how does speedy guy not run fast 800 off 3'26 or someone else 2'11 with maybe 1'41-high/ actual 3'43 now nijel run 1'41 after rounds ??

bernie was never a 3k/5k guy

his profile indicates same profile as noah '99, but i can't separate them :

46+/1'41-mid/3'25-mid

ventolin^3 wrote:

bernie had too much whip in his legs

i'll get smashed to gates of hades for this, but bernie in his 3'26+ had the whip in his legs for

1'41+

after all, noah, his usual whipping boy ran 2'11wr

how does speedy guy not run fast 800 off 3'26 or someone else 2'11 with maybe 1'41-high/ actual 3'43 now nijel run 1'41 after rounds ??

bernie was never a 3k/5k guy

his profile indicates same profile as noah '99, but i can't separate them :

46+/1'41-mid/3'25-mid

So punch those numbers and give us his projected 3k and 5k potential. That's what the calculator does, correct?

I firmly uphold that Lagat had a low 12:4x in him between 2005 and 2011.

In 2006 he ran a 3:29 1500m and beat Bekele in a 5000m, running 12:59 with a 51.9 last lap.

2007/2008 may have been his best years to try. It's a shame he was injured for the olympics. He could've put Ramzi to shame.

SMJO wrote:So punch those numbers and give us his projected 3k and 5k potential. That's what the calculator does, correct?

no

those numbers offer nothing for 3k/5k

it's same as looking as proxy for mile+ in noah in 4'50+

bernie had too much whip in those legs - same as noah

both guys, one in '99 other in '01 were capable of 1'41+

neither had great endurance, just huge whip in legs

ventolin^3 wrote:

SMJO wrote:So punch those numbers and give us his projected 3k and 5k potential. That's what the calculator does, correct?

no

those numbers offer nothing for 3k/5k

it's same as looking as proxy for mile+ in noah in 4'50+

bernie had too much whip in those legs - same as noah

both guys, one in '99 other in '01 were capable of 1'41+

neither had great endurance, just huge whip in legs

Really?

Nothing at all?

You can't make up some numbers and offer a range for what Lagat's best 5k potential could've been?

Can we safely say this has been one of the Top 10 Most Unproductive Threads in letsrun history? Same stale arguments rage on for 11 pages? Insanity.

There have been productive threads?