Will Leer Ran Stupid

i didn't watch his race, I watched how he carried himself before "his" race.

If you don't understand what carrying a sport on your shoulders means, you don't understand your sport.

But he does have a nice beard. He should talk to Gillette for a sponsor.

1 2 3 Coaching wrote:

Henry Rollins wrote:

Sounds like he didn't have it...

He had it, but when you are 3 seconds behind the leaders when you start kicking, you will never catch them in an international meet.

You're saying he's no Wottle?

DaveW wrote:

i didn't watch his race, I watched how he carried himself before "his" race.

If you don't understand what carrying a sport on your shoulders means, you don't understand your sport.

But he does have a nice beard. He should talk to Gillette for a sponsor.

You have posted many times in this thread, but said nothing. Why not post no times and cut your losses?

minong wrote:

Watched the video, I have no idea what he was thinking. Clearly he had another gear coming to the line. I can't say I know enough about Leer's racing to say whether or not he usually is a good tactician in situations like this, but that was poor racing.

He wasn't up to this race.

He wasn't able to match a couple of surges and missed the boat when Willis moved up to give himself a chance. When the running started in the last 300 he wasn't able to hold anyone, and if you think looking good with 40 m to go says he had something left you really are need a lesson.

It comes down to experience, or lack of it, and the inability to 'play' in the pack in a big race. Its hopefully a learning experience.

What you mean is he didn't have the character for this race.

DaveW wrote:

Let's be honest

Jordan Hasay and Mary Cain did not show because of the ill advised negative media coverage largely created by this site.

Jordan and Mary represent the greatest boost to young girl running in the past, present and future.

We missed seeing them because of sites like this. What a shame.

umm . . . Hasay didn't show because she didn't qualify. She only "withdrew" so that the USATF could save some face. If Grunewald had truly been disqualified then it shouldn't have mattered if Hasay withdrew; she still would have been out on a technicality.

Mary Cain did not show due to injury. Being that she is a teenager that still lives at home, I'm going to give her the benefit of the doubt and believe that her stated reason for withdrawing is the real reason she didn't show.

. . . and now back to Will Leer's beard . . . did it cause too much wind resistance?

DaveW wrote:

What you mean is he didn't have the character for this race.

Nope I just think he is not capable of running a world class competition with multiple rounds. At this stage of his career.

He looked a little heavy early and couldn't make the space he wanted.

Like when Ali got knocked out by Holmes. He could see the openings, but they were gone before he could throw the punch.

The two guys up front were switching pace and pulling the strings. US runners don't play that game at home, so they miss out on the road.

Its not toughness, its experience.

No, the two pillars of running for young girls were in fact held out due to pressure from the media and mostly instigated by LR.

If you don't understand that you are a fool, and I hope the runners who look up to Jordan and Mary understand this very well.

We are all the worse for the wear, and people were cheated out of seeing the best in character that the USA has to offer.

R2D3 wrote:

So he says he went against his coaches advice and stayed at the back to keep out of trouble. Whenever he tried to pass the pack closed up and he couldn't get past. He hoped the field would thin out in the last 300 and he could pick them off one by one but it never happened. Lesson learned.

This backs up the OP

I'm sure the OP meant "Stupid Tactics".

Head Wound Harry wrote:

I don't know what race you clowns were watching, but I saw a guy who did his best to hold on and he moved up not because he had "too much" left but because a couple guys in front of him were fading. Those of you who say he was three seconds behind or whatever need to learn basic concepts such as "three" and "seconds" because Leer was never that far back -- at the bell he was about two seconds back and his betters were simply running away from him. Should be have pulled a Manzano and just jogged it in? Or pulled a Rupp and stepped off the track faking a foot injury?

He did not do his best to hang on. The pace was not very fast through 800m

bazinga wrote:

1 2 3 Coaching wrote:

He had it, but when you are 3 seconds behind the leaders when you start kicking, you will never catch them in an international meet.

You're saying he's no Wottle?

Wottle never increased his pace. He ran an evenly paced race, because the leaders in 72 went out too fast. This race was a different story. Will definitely needed to move up in the middle.

Will Leer Fan wrote:

bazinga wrote:

You're saying he's no Wottle?

Wottle never increased his pace. He ran an evenly paced race, because the leaders in 72 went out too fast. This race was a different story. Will definitely needed to move up in the middle.

Wottle was lucky to get through the traffic and luckier that everyone else faded. The only thing that wasn't luck was that he was the world record holder and was expected to win easily, which he would have if he'd gone out faster himself, considering the pace was two seconds slower than his WR.

HardLoper wrote:

He did not run stupid. He just was not good enough to win or take top 3 in this field.

Best reply of the thread.

Leer finished 7th in the World Championship final. (bumped to 6th).

Very good for someone with a 3:35 PR.

PR's of the finalists:

1) Suleiman 3:30.31

2) Wote 3:32.65

3) Iguider 3:31.47

4*) Willis 3:30.35

5) ÖZBILEN 3:31.30

6) Holusa 3:38.10/1:15.12

7) Leer 3:35.27

8) Tesfaye 3:34.18

9) Birgen 3:30.77

And consider guys like Lomong and Kiplagat didn't make the final.

I think when people focus on one person in a race they just don't consider the others.

Watch the race 9 times, focusing on a different runner each time.

Most of the runners look stupid.

You got a couple of 3:30 guys that couldn't manage a medal.

Great race for Will Leer.

Head Wound Harry wrote:

I don't know what race you clowns were watching, but I saw a guy who did his best to hold on and he moved up not because he had "too much" left but because a couple guys in front of him were fading. Those of you who say he was three seconds behind or whatever need to learn basic concepts such as "three" and "seconds" because Leer was never that far back -- at the bell he was about two seconds back and his betters were simply running away from him. Should be have pulled a Manzano and just jogged it in? Or pulled a Rupp and stepped off the track faking a foot injury?

You're right. There's a video out now so we can put this one to rest.

No

He ran a stupid race

He even admits as much in his interview

He ran scared and didn't put himself in it

toro wrote:

You got a couple of 3:30 guys that couldn't manage a medal.

Because they are NOT 3:30 guys.

uyf wrote:

toro wrote:

You got a couple of 3:30 guys that couldn't manage a medal.

Because they are NOT 3:30 guys.

Silas Kiplagat, Nick Willis, and Bethwell Birgen are all 3:30 or under guys who didn't medal.

This is a bummer.

You know this dude takes doing well as seriously as anyone...possibly too seriously...too much pressure.

Racing indoors however takes smarts and experience.