200th place was 1:05:59.
No surprise Japan is a fraction of the population of the US but has more depth at the elite end of the marathon spectrum. With 200 sub-66 runners in a single race, you're bound to end up with more of those developing into sub-2:10 marathoners.
Only 43 went sub-66 in Houston at our national championships?
http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/2014/USA-Half-Marathon-Championships/Results.aspx
Holy *@+!
a;jfdla;djfla;f wrote:
Only 43 went sub-66 in Houston at our national championships?
http://www.usatf.org/Events---Calendar/2014/USA-Half-Marathon-Championships/Results.aspx
go japan????
land of the rising halfers wrote:
http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2014/03/yamanaka-sets-course-record-at-national.html200th place was 1:05:59.
No surprise Japan is a fraction of the population of the US but has more depth at the elite end of the marathon spectrum. With 200 sub-66 runners in a single race, you're bound to end up with more of those developing into sub-2:10 marathoners.
Cool, maybe one of them can be the first Japanese runner to sneak under an hour some day.
Perhaps the course was short
Comparing the general populations of these countries makes zero sense.
thats interesting, why would Japan of all countries other than Kenya have great runners... their diet high in fish lol? thats interesting
The US is underperforming at distance running.
US has only had one sub-60 halfer ever.
Couldn't help myself wrote:
land of the rising halfers wrote:http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2014/03/yamanaka-sets-course-record-at-national.html200th place was 1:05:59.
No surprise Japan is a fraction of the population of the US but has more depth at the elite end of the marathon spectrum. With 200 sub-66 runners in a single race, you're bound to end up with more of those developing into sub-2:10 marathoners.
Cool, maybe one of them can be the first Japanese runner to sneak under an hour some day.
So are Japanese training right or wrong? 200 sub 1:06 halfers suggests right, but no sub 1:00 from such a large group suggests wrong. Or are Japanese just not talented enough to run a really fast half?
Nothings Shocking wrote:
thats interesting, why would Japan of all countries other than Kenya have great runners... their diet high in fish lol? thats interesting
because they're actually trying
Potstirrer wrote:
So are Japanese training right or wrong? 200 sub 1:06 halfers suggests right, but no sub 1:00 from such a large group suggests wrong. Or are Japanese just not talented enough to run a really fast half?
It's not hard to reconcile the two with the argument that they're better at maxing out their genetic potential, but that it is slightly more limited than that of some other groups.
I believe there is also more genetic diversity among white/black populations than among the Japanese, so you're more likely to find extreme cardiovascular outliers there than in a more homogeneous population.
Potstirrer wrote:
So are Japanese training right or wrong? 200 sub 1:06 halfers suggests right, but no sub 1:00 from such a large group suggests wrong. Or are Japanese just not talented enough to run a really fast half?
The half-marathon is the center of Japan's collegiate system. If the NCAA replaced XC season with a half-marathon season, we'd have a lot of guys running sub 66 too.
Anyway, quality over quantity. If you don't have one guy who can win a WC/OG medal, so what if you have a whole army of ~65 half-marathoners? If I could trade Rupp for every distance runner in Japan, I wouldn't do it. Rupp is a medal contender. Until they add the 200 X half-marathon relay to the Olympics, the Japanese runners under discussion are not.
Long distance running is big sport in Japan. By long I mean real long, half marathon and marathon, big time stuff. In the US long distance is 5K-10K. Our guys don't go for the marathon in till they are done on the track. Hall and Ritz being the exception.
99% of those Japanese continue to be nobodies. It's a battle of attrition in Japan. 99% burn out, don't run past the age of 30, and maybe 1-2 become relevant on the world stage.
They are Half Marathon specialists, nothing more, nothing less.
outstanding performances, i wish we had races of this quality in the uk.
Copw;l wrote:
99% of those Japanese continue to be nobodies. It's a battle of attrition in Japan. 99% burn out, don't run past the age of 30, and maybe 1-2 become relevant on the world stage.
They are Half Marathon specialists, nothing more, nothing less.
So wait a minute, 99% of those 200 Japanese will continue to be nobodies, burn out and won't run past age 30? That leaves 2 guys who won't burn out and run past age 30? Of those, 1-2 become relevant on the world stage? So you're saying that 50-100% of Japanese runners who run past age 30 become relevant on the world stage? That seems like a pretty good success rate. Do you have citations for these numbers?