What about Andrew Bumbalough? Why exactly was he DQ'd?

Legend wrote:

There is no way HIll doesn't see Rupp here

Yep, that is correct. At about 5:13 you can see Hill slightly turn his head and then he ramps up and moves out and really trips Rupp up. That is pretty blatant in review. At 5:18 you can hear the crowd react to the move: "Ooooohhhhh!"

This would warrent a protest. I do think there was a case of mistaken identity here and Shumacher wisely chose not to protest and bring up the fact that Hill (the runner up) was at fault. What if Rupp or Lagat get sick or injured prior to worlds? Hill is on deck. Not if the DQ goes to him obviously.

Let's not be naive about this...

Bumbalough (much like was mentioned during the race call) was the sacrificial lamb here. He was ONLY Dq'd to provide cover for Nike critics.

Think about it, the perfect counter to charges of Nike influence is an example of a Nike Athlete unfairly targeted.

someone else altogether wrote:

To sum it up: Bumbi was DQd by the officials. It was not worth the $50 to protest the DQ, as 8th place is neither a WC slot, nor a prize $ slot, nor would it earn him a sponsorship bonus. It might be frustrating, but not worth the $ to protest.

Also, might an appeal have led to Hill being DQ'd?

Also, watch right at 5:37 (race time), Rupp is coming up and is just on the outside of lane one. At 5:36.0 Lomong is on the curb and content. At 5:37.5 Rupp is on his side and Lomong starts moving out directly into rupp and his right elbow is against Galen. At 5:38.5 Galen is getting forced out into lane 3. At 5:39.5 you can see the affect of this and Rupp is clear into lane 3 and has retracted his move to the front.

This is the second time now in just about 30 seconds. First by Hill, then by Lomong.

Watch it objectively, it's undeniable. Would two surging efforts which are physically impeded and stopped take a little something out of you, especially at this pace at altitude? You bet.

I like Lomong and Hill and all of Jerry's guys, but there was a plan here and it wasn't super clean.

http://www.usatf.tv/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=45365&mgroup_event_id=25&do=videos&video_id=105469

beantaxi wrote:

Also, might an appeal have led to Hill being DQ'd?

Precisely, see my post above on this. Why risk that?

Ironically, Bumbi is the one guy in the group (of 3) who didn't physically impede Rupp! Not only was he the sacrifical pacer lamb, but he had to be the DQ lamb so that it wouldn't come under review and go to Hill.

The ref clearly confused him for Hill which is a problem. Are we to believe volunteers are deciding these runners fates per the USATF release....terrible. Salazar wanted Bumbi out because of the race tactics. Also Nike does NOT see Jerry's group as representing Nike just Salazar's. They are separate entities right now...its a civil war in Salazar's mind and Phil Knight. What a waste of an opportunity with 2 great distance coaches. Calling all shoe companies...please sign Jerry and his team away from this mess...that would make this very interesting.

Legend wrote:

Hill is the only one who should have possibly been DQ'd in the whole meet. Is possible that Bumbalough was mistaken for him?

Pretty egregious contact by Hill in the 3000 around the 5:10 mark in the race. Video shows a nice replay of it. Im sure that this is what Salazar was really pissed about.

http://www.usatf.tv/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=45365&mgroup_event_id=25&do=videos&video_id=105469

After watching the crucial replay 2 dozen times, I noticed the following.

1. Bumbi was glancing right a number of times in the straight and the turn. I would guess he was trying to see if it was clear to veer right and out of the way to allow for the pack of 4 to pass him on the inside. They were never far enough back, so he stayed on the rail.

2. Rupp and Hill are accelerating to pass Bumbi, and they converged on the same spot at the same time. Neither runner yielded to the other. Rupp could have kept veering slightly right into the outside of lane 2 and never had to check up. He tried to intimidate Hill to slow down. In the end, Rupp had to check up because Hill had position ahead of him, not because Hill interfered with him. My conclusion is that both runners tried to squeeze by the other, and there is no penalty here. When there is contact between two soccer players, the one who falls down is not always the one who was fouled. It is usually the lighter one. Same here. In car accidents, the cops usually give the ticket to the person who was behind the other for following too closely. When I was driving in Europe and South America, I have been told that the car who has even just six inches of forward advantage has the right of way. Since that is the way most internationals think, that is the mentality of international athletes as well. This meet should be adjudicated the same as international meets, so....No foul.

No way. Rupp was in lane two and accelerating and passing and Hill saw the move and jumped in front. It's as simple as that. There was no slow-mo moment where Rupp thought, ohh here he comes I'm going to keep up, try to intimidate him and risk tripping up. It totally caught Rupp off guard as it would anyone coming around that fast in a clear lane only to have someone suddenly move in front of you. You are either trolling or you have no experience racing at a high level.

And I don't buy the notion that Hill DIDN'T see Rupp coming. If not, why in hell would he suddenly expend energy with a burst like that in the middle of a corner? There was plenty of race left, he was behind his man, and if he just wanted to take the lead he could have waited 3 more seconds and make a smooth and much more effortless move around Lomong. The move was deliberate in that he wanted to stop Rupps move and put himself in front. I don't think he intended to cause Rupp to trip up (though that is certainly what he did) but I think he wanted to make his statement that "hey, I'm still ready to be in front of you and keep you behind me". In making that statement he impeded Rupp, and by all definitions caused him to trip up and slowed his progress as well as waste valuable energy on the move Rupp was making.

Between that at what Lomong did, they were successful in taking some sting out of Rupp, just not enough. It was a bit dirty for sure. Lagat had the pleasure of staying back from all of it and letting them burn energy and then burn them in the end.

Pretty much agree with the ref. There is contact but it is within the 'normal' racing jostling. They both go to pass the slowing Bumbalough.

Any official that confused those two is incompetent, as is a coach who asserts that the lead runner is at fault and he was the lead runner for a long ways.

This is not rupp's fault and it was not a space bubble infringement. USATF Nike (who is also partially responsible for this sport still existing today) and Alberto salajerk did all of this. Ryan Hill should not have been DQd either because it was just minor contact in a 5 person pack