What about Andrew Bumbalough? Why exactly was he DQ'd?

Who?

Bumba ran a gusty race! he took it out hard and set a fair pace.

He impeded Rupp's concentration.

he was dq'd because salazar still had an extra $100 burning a hole in his pocket after targeting the W3000m winner (Protest w/ usatf=$100).

Per Rojo on the Run Fan radio show, they were told a foul with 5 laps to go where Bumbalough impeded Rupp. Rojo made a good point that he believes they got Bumbalough and Hill mixed up as Hill did make a move that impeded Rupp (I wouldn't DQ him though) with just under 5 to go. http://www.usatf.tv/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=45365&mgroup_event_id=25&do=videos&video_id=105469

Seriously can anyone figure out why Salazar filed a protest against Bumbi? There is literally nothing he did wrong. I know it didn't make a difference in who's going to worlds. But its scary that the wrong person can get DQ'd so easily. Hill touched Rupp with 5 to go but that's the only thing I can see.

concerned runner wrote:

Seriously can anyone figure out why Salazar filed a protest against Bumbi? There is literally nothing he did wrong. I know it didn't make a difference in who's going to worlds. But its scary that the wrong person can get DQ'd so easily. Hill touched Rupp with 5 to go but that's the only thing I can see.

When I first heard about Bumbalough's DQ, I thought that it was for improper pacing assistance (based on a rarely enforced rule that may not even apply to USATF championships). But the idea that he impeded Rupp seems absurd. When he slowed, he simply hugged the rail and allowed everyone else in the lead pack, including Rupp, to pass him. If anyone committed a foul, it was Hill (who moved out to pass Bumbalough while Galen was moving up to Hill's shoulder) or Rupp (who was, after all, still behind Hill when Hill moved out to pass Bumbalough).

So what's the explanation from USATF?

I think that we will find out that Bumbalough was DQed for doing a "Hasay", i.e. running out of gas, moving back to the rail and impeding the runner behind him. I believe the USATF rule is that if you run out of gas, move to the rail and block the accelerating NOP runner behind you then you are DQed; and if you are an NOP athlete and you run out of gas, move to the rail and block the accelerating runner behind you then that runner is DQed.

it use to be that people from Tennessee had HONOR, when officals found out he was from Tennessee they DQ him!

Salazar ordered the volunteers to disqualify the Kenyan, and the volunteers assumed that Bumbalough was a Kenyan name.

those who wnder what happened wrote:

I think that we will find out that Bumbalough was DQed for doing a "Hasay", i.e. running out of gas, moving back to the rail and impeding the runner behind him. I believe the USATF rule is that if you run out of gas, move to the rail and block the accelerating NOP runner behind you then you are DQed; and if you are an NOP athlete and you run out of gas, move to the rail and block the accelerating runner behind you then that runner is DQed.

Except that didn't happen. 6 seconds between moving back and the contact. And she was never really out that far anyway.

canspo wrote:

Per Rojo on the Run Fan radio show, they were told a foul with 5 laps to go where Bumbalough impeded Rupp. Rojo made a good point that he believes they got Bumbalough and Hill mixed up as Hill did make a move that impeded Rupp (I wouldn't DQ him though) with just under 5 to go.

http://www.usatf.tv/gprofile.php?mgroup_id=45365&mgroup_event_id=25&do=videos&video_id=105469

That was true. I assumed it was an innocent mistake but I've since been told that Salazar filed a protest.

I've watched the tape and see ZERO CONTACT zero between Bumby and Rupp. This decision therefore is WORSE than the Grunewald DQ.

This Bumby case is actually a big one in my mind now that I think about it. USATF has been allowed to be inept for years because normally their cronyism doesn't involve a race winner like Grunewald. It's a 'minor' issue that people forget out.

This is the type of USATF mistake that normally is allowed to go on for years as it's normally not a huge issue like it was with a race winner in Grunewald. It's always a case like this with Bumby who was what 5th or 7th or

someone like Heather Kampf being screwed over

or Joe Stilin being screwed over this year.

We can't let these little things slide.

I'll have more energy tomorrow and try to get to the bottom of this.

Bumbalough never left the rail. He very gradually slowed down, and all of the others in the lead pack went by him. If he had been the meet organizer's paid pacemaker, he would have been praised for a job well done -- a solid pace for 2000m (or whatever it was) and no interference with the other runners. He even had the good grace to finish the race like a real competitor. (The official reason for his DQ, by the way, was "interference," so it apparently wasn't for improper pacing assistance.)

If USATF is going to stick by its conclusion that there was interference warranting disqualification, then it should decide whether Hill or Rupp was the one who should be disqualified, adjust the results accordingly, and await the firestorm that will rightly follow.

After watching the 3k race finally I think Bumbi wasn't the impediment, it was Hill. I don't think it was really on purpose but if anyone should have been DQed it should have been Hill, who saw the opening and took it while accidentally cutting Rupp off.

I did see an instance of Lomong going way wide on the homestretch just to give Galen some trouble moving up. I now sort of understand why Salazar was so angry (not supporting how he handled it, but I get what he saw now)at Jerry. If these athletes weren't working together to contest Rupp, then they definitely don't know how to run in a straight line. Both cases would me a problem IMO.

Salazar was obviously wrong if he filed a protest against Bumbalough for interference, and it's disgraceful that the protest was granted. But beyond that, I don't see what Salazar's beef with Jerry was all about. Without Bumbalough keeping the pace fast, Rupp was probably a sitting duck for Lagat and possibly even Lamong in a sit-and-kick race. And considering that Rupp occasionally gets tangled in packs, the fast pace strung out the field and gave Rupp a relatively unimpeded run in a nice single-file formation. In the only notable contact involving Rupp, Hill and Rupp both moved to pass Bumbalough into the lead at about the same time. Hill, who was ahead of Rupp, got there first. I don't think that I would have disqualified either Rupp or Hill for that contact, but it's disgraceful if Al moved to DQ Bumbalough just to get his pound of flesh.

Is it possible that the DQ was based on the overall impression that he was there to set the pace without the intention of really competing, and thus somehow interfering with the result? I don't think this was the case since he finished 8th and didn't totally pack it in and get lapped. Just wondering whether "blatant rabbiting" was the charge (unjustified) and the legality of this in USATF championship races.

It's obvious that if anyone was DQ'd, it should have been Hill. What he did was far worse than what GG did. Bumbalough did nothing.

Theorist wrote:

Is it possible that the DQ was based on the overall impression that he was there to set the pace without the intention of really competing, and thus somehow interfering with the result? I don't think this was the case since he finished 8th and didn't totally pack it in and get lapped. Just wondering whether "blatant rabbiting" was the charge (unjustified) and the legality of this in USATF championship races.

No, it specifically says by the DQ that it was for interference, and that is what he was told by USATF.

I am with FloTrack and Letsrun on this one. This is WORSE than the Grunewald DQ. That was bullshit in terms of the rules not being followed with the appeals process, but at least there was a debatable incident that occurred.

Bumbalough was NOT DQ'd by the officials. He was DQ'd by a protest made by Salazar. How the **** is no one at USATF or on this appeals committee fact-checking Salazar to make sure he's filing a protest against the right person? Was no video watched?

It's got to suck for a guy who always gets close to Rupp but can never beat him...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdc7cfbNNCw