I squat to pee.
I squat to pee.
I would be surprised if there weren't several guys out there right now that could do it.
I suppose the obvious questions are: what is the best mile time by someone who's done 500lb? What is the best squat by someone who's done sub 5 min?
(And of course, why do we care about this particular combination of performances?)
When I was in high school, 1984, I could squat 300 lbs and leg press 500 lbs with relative ease. I was more of a quarter miler (53-54 seconds) but ran a 5:38 mile and had almost no training for it. I ran cross country in the fall (18 min 5K). My point is, if I could do what I was doing on limited talent, for sure someone will do this. It isn't special, just new as a challenge.
Last year my personal goal was to run a mile sub-6, a 400 sub 60 and dead lift 500 in the same day. The goal fell apart due to other priorities. I did a 5:45 mile. Never time trialled the 400, and did 465 dead. Think I could have done it for sure.
Nowhere near the same ballpark, but a fun challenge. Squatting is a helluva lot harder than most people here realize. 500 lbs is a lot, let alone doing it beyond parallel to make it legal.
Lots of horse shit in this thread. Of course there are high level decathletes who can do this. They are about the only athletes I know who need to train both strength and cardiovascular endurance.
Arnold was a powerlifter before he got into bodybuildIng...I'm sure he could squat more than 500...don't believe everything you read. To say a bodybuilder doesn't lift to get strong is ignorant...you will still get strong even when lifting moderate reps, likewise you can still gain muscle mass when lifting for strength and power
Two problems with this scenario of a sub 5 mile and a 500 squat. What do you call a squat? Thigh parallel to ground? Atg? 90 degree knee angle? Position could easily mean a 50lb swing. Also, in order to run a sub 5 mile you are going to have to keep a pretty slim ht to weight ratio, so we're talking about a lean strong 185-225 decathlon type athlete squatting 2.5 his bodyweight and running sub 5.
That's the issue....running limits lower body strength development. I've been in a lot of gyms and been around a lot of athletes. A sub 5 mile is a hell lot more common than a 500 squat...to do both we're talking elite level ability to maintain those two extremes
Alan
Fact is one of the best trainings for the mile is 400m CrossFit style sprint repeats. We do tons of those at our box.
Several of my bros squat around that range (converted from overhead squat lbs numbers) and are running below 5 (when you account for hilly terrain, weather, weighted vest etc).
So yes, it is possible and CrossFit is a great way to train for it.
No runner will ever do it though. Too SCRAWNY. Lol...
Your trolling is at an all time low. No one converts an OH Squat.
I agree that this could be done at some point.
My best combination was 4:58/405
At that point I would do 405 for a few reps, just about parallel. I could do one rep at 405 and a bit more for a real, full squat.
Sure, 4:58 is just a shade under 5:00, and 410 is still 90 lbs away from 500, which is a lot...but I did that cleanly. I fully believe that if I were doping, I could have done 5:00/500. There is no reason to believe that some guy won't, if he specifically applies himself.
Those crossfit guys are actually pretty impressive at what they do--OK, all I saw was the clean ladder, but that was pretty good, much better than I expected.
[quote]Xfit_guy_the_real_1 wrote:
) and are running below 5 (when you account for hilly terrain, weather, weighted vest etc).
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And the distance known as the crossfit mile. Whatever distance you cover in the time you wish you could run for a mile
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Those crossfit guys are actually pretty impressive at what they do--OK, all I saw was the clean ladder, but that was pretty good, much better than I expected.
they cant run for shit. few could break 20min in a 5k.
most of them aren't really good at anything that isn't crossfit or olympic lifting. i am including powerlifting, because most do not have impressive bench/sq/dls. They can't sprint or jump for shit. It is pathetic.
trololololol wrote:
most of them aren't really good at anything that isn't crossfit or olympic lifting. i am including powerlifting, because most do not have impressive bench/sq/dls. They can't sprint or jump for shit. It is pathetic.
You can say the same thing for runners so what exactly is your point?
This doesn't seem that hard to me. I have run well under 5 and have squated close to 400. I don't think I could ever get 500, but then I'm not a top-flight athlete. In addition to the decathletes mentioned, why couldn't a good sprinter who likely already squats ~500 be able to train to get under 5 for a mile.
Now under 5 and over 500 in bench press - that would be a tough one!
kickz wrote:
On the fence about crossfit wrote:I was thinking eaton too. Quick search shows a 4:14 1500 for him so he's definitely sub 5 but 500 lbs is a lot of weight. No need for douchey snarkiness
It's not douchey snarkiness. It's a tip so you don't sound stupid in the future. 500 lbs is not a lot of weight for an elite athlete. There are people squatting over 1000 pounds. You should easily be able to squat 2-3 times your body weight. Your legs are significantly underdeveloped. You should be BENCHING more than 185.
No man has ever come close to legit squatting 1000 pounds. Having wraps on your legs is basically aided like bench suits. 934 is the real world record for a raw squat.
And 909 is the best raw no strap drug tested record.
an all-state linebacker at my high school could squat 430 and ran an 18:30 5k (6'0 190)
Schools out.... wrote:
And 909 is the best raw no strap drug tested record.
909 seems pretty close to 1000 in the context of this discussion (500 lbs), doesn't it? So why are you being difficult?
For the same reason you were being difficult about the difference between 2x and 3x.
I am not against the idea of concurrent training as a great protocol for people who want to be generally fit (and there are principles that guide a proper protocol to offset the interference effect) but Crossfit for the most part doesn't hew to any principles/research on concurrent training to maxmize the potential for concurrent training. And you will never excel at both, but can be surprisingly well-rounded. The interference effect is too great (cardio catabolizes muscle and weight training tires you out for doing base work or adding neuromuscular fatigue with intervals).
I agree, I don't care about the argument but Kickz is definitely a nob.