Video of El G 7:23 3000m

is it true he still has to inject himself with epo everyday?

that's what I heard

Runner85 wrote:

He didn't actually say it was 95F out. He said the thermometer showed 95F. Thermometers can vary widely depending on placement and if they are just plain broken.

you should be a lawyer

happy to have helped :) wrote:

what part of

"i looked up at the temperature clock and it read 95 degrees" don't you understand?

christ

What part of "official temperature recording" do you not understand?

Christ

And how long after this race did he say that?

Eyewitness accounts are often the most inaccurate.

One comment by Ryan doesn't mean anything either way. It may have been 95, 85 or 105.

I'm sure a little google ninja-ing could find the actual recorded temps if someone really cared enough.

ddpoo wrote:

happy to have helped :) wrote:

what part of

"i looked up at the temperature clock and it read 95 degrees" don't you understand?

christ

What part of "official temperature recording" do you not understand?

Christ

idiot

what part of

"i looked up at the temperature clock and it read 95 degrees" don't you understand?

Wtfunny wrote:

And how long after this race did he say that?

Eyewitness accounts are often the most inaccurate.

One comment by Ryan doesn't mean anything either way. It may have been 95, 85 or 105.

I'm sure a little google ninja-ing could find the actual recorded temps if someone really cared enough.

Someone asked for evidence

I gave evidence

Until you offer something better -

can it

happy to have helped :) wrote:

Wtfunny wrote:

And how long after this race did he say that?

Eyewitness accounts are often the most inaccurate.

One comment by Ryan doesn't mean anything either way. It may have been 95, 85 or 105.

I'm sure a little google ninja-ing could find the actual recorded temps if someone really cared enough.

Someone asked for evidence

I gave evidence

Until you offer something better -

can it

Ryun looked at clock

He/It said

95F

ventolin^3 wrote:

Ryun looked at clock

He/It said

95F

Humans just like machines are fallible, I guess we'll never know what temperature it really was that day.

Gym Class Shuffle wrote:Humans just like machines are fallible, I guess we'll never know what temperature it really was that day

no

champ said it was

95 F

Gym Class Shuffle wrote:

ventolin^3 wrote:

Ryun looked at clock

He/It said

95F

Humans just like machines are fallible, I guess we'll never know what temperature it really was that day.

I thought your search showed it was "Maximum Temperature

73.9 °F" that day??? If so, what the F' is ventolin/Ryun smoking?

Tyrannnosaurus Rexing wrote:

Gym Class Shuffle wrote:

Humans just like machines are fallible, I guess we'll never know what temperature it really was that day.

I thought your search showed it was "Maximum Temperature

73.9 °F" that day??? If so, what the F' is ventolin/Ryun smoking?

it did, however air temps can vary, and machines can be wrong, so can humans though.. which meaning if both ryun and the machine were wrong, we'll never know the temp. Also in reply to "no champ saw it 95F", seriously just because hes a champ means he is correct. He wasn't the champion of meteorology he was the champ of the 1500m that holds no water.

2'50+ in

95 F

Don't you get it? CHAMP saw 95 degrees. Who you gonna believe, CHAMP or your own lying eyes?

Gym Class Shuffle wrote:

it did, however air temps can vary, and machines can be wrong, so can humans though.. which meaning if both ryun and the machine were wrong, we'll never know the temp. Also in reply to "no champ saw it 95F", seriously just because hes a champ means he is correct. He wasn't the champion of meteorology he was the champ of the 1500m that holds no water.

Air temps do vary .. but the idea that it was 20 deg F hotter in the stadium than the recorded max temp for the day is absurd.

So this was supposed to be a post about elG and his 3k video but 5-6 posts in and you dummies are ranting about what the temp was/wasn't when Ryun ran his race.

Get the hell back on topic. Thanks to the OP for the video. ElG looked rough that last 800m but still held sub 4/4flat pace despite being solo for essentially the last 1200. Impressive stuff even though many will cry EPO.

happy to have helped :) wrote:

Someone asked for evidence

I gave evidence

Until you offer something better -

can it

Evidence is not proof. What a sportsman says about his own performance years later is not reliable and almost always exaggerated. A reliable 3rd party needed to support evidence. Ventolin certainly isn't that. He said the temp in London for Rudisha's WR run was in the 90's when in fact official meteorolgical stats for London that day had the temp in the low 70's for that time of the evening.

Ryan has also proved an unreliable source in past, like when he said that his last lap in Dusseldorf was, "49 something". The guy with the footage (and indeed various other athletic sources at the time) catergorically said it was 50.5 or 50.6. He is an avid statistician, and a far more reliable witness than Vent.

The records show the temp in LA that day in 67 reached a max of 73.9C, which is pleasant for a 3.5 min 1500m race.

There is no way the temp in the stadium would have been 20C higher than the max recorded temp anywhere in LA that day. Ryun may well have seen 95 on a thermometer, but official weather stats prove that if this was the case, then the thermometer was faulty.

Back to the OP. Great video footage, but one really has to put a ? over anything achieved in that era, especially by a Moroccan.

obviously those temps were Fahrenheit not Celcius.

His last lap was recorded as that by the 'Times" of Germany written by a former german olympian.

How do you know that is not what he was told his last split was. It has been recorded as that.

The supposed owner of the footage refuses to post it and also refuses to answer a simple question about how wide ryun had to run right after the bell.

HE is an unreliable source.

No

Champ saw it. The temp right on the track was higher. Clock was on stadium floor.