how many of them actually sue the father and how many just say to heck with him im going to do this all on my own? also, the ones that sue for child support, do they do it for revenge?
how many of them actually sue the father and how many just say to heck with him im going to do this all on my own? also, the ones that sue for child support, do they do it for revenge?
wow this is shocking. men are really getting crapped on in this country. looks like the courts always feel sorry for women and think the man should always pay. read these statistics
http://singleparents.about.com/od/statebystateresources/p/child_support_statistics.htm
This is an obamanation.
tired of double standards wrote:
wow this is shocking. men are really getting crapped on in this country. looks like the courts always feel sorry for women and think the man should always pay. read these statistics
http://singleparents.about.com/od/statebystateresources/p/child_support_statistics.htm
Not the sharpest tool in the shed, huh?
Child support is largely based upon income of the two parties and time spent caring for the child. Men generally make more money than women. Women generally spend time with their children even when they do not have custody. Men more often do not.
Do the math.
Hats to be shed wrote:
Not the sharpest tool in the shed, huh?
Child support is largely based upon income of the two parties and time spent caring for the child. Men generally make more money than women. Women generally spend time with their children even when they do not have custody. Men more often do not.
Do the math.
Actually, you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Child support payments, if granted, are ALWAYS based on who files for divorse. Lets say the woman files for divorse (as is usually the case), the judge understands that she is the one who has a problem with the man, not the other way around. Therefore, she is the one who is more distraught and probably wants full custody. However, look at situations like Dwayne Wade. He filed for divorse and he also got full custody of the kids.
It has absolutely nothing to do with who has more money. It has to do with who files for divorse and who has more desire to keep the child and reap benefits from the other party. Of course, I also believe that birth control is 100% a WOMANS responsibility. Guess why? Because men cant get pregnate.
Once women give birth to child, her significant other will always be a very distant priority. This has been going on for several million years.
yolanda jackson wrote:
also, the ones that sue for child support, do they do it for revenge?
Revenge?
You don't think a man should financially support his children that are living with their mother?
* wrote:
Revenge?
You don't think a man should financially support his children that are living with their mother?
Sir, Believe it or not, many women only file for child support because they are lazy and want to hurt their ex. Nobody enjoys paying child support.
Brian Anderson wrote:
Sir, Believe it or not, many women only file for child support because they are lazy and want to hurt their ex. Nobody enjoys paying child support.
Regardless of the woman's intentions or lifestyle I don't see how the father wouldn't be obligated to financially support his children.
So the father may have enjoyed the sex but not the child support that comes from it.
I don't think women enjoy the burden of raising the father's kids on their own.
* wrote:
Regardless of the woman's intentions or lifestyle I don't see how the father wouldn't be obligated to financially support his children.
So the father may have enjoyed the sex but not the child support that comes from it.
I don't think women enjoy the burden of raising the father's kids on their own.
Really bro? Im so sick and tired of America's perception that men are always the breadwinners and women are always helpless, then we have to sit around and listen to women complain about equal rights. If they are so helpless then they should never complain about equal work rights.
Ive have never paid for a female on a date. I hold my own and always make them pay for their own movie ticket and meal. Does that not make me a real man?
I hear what you are saying about men paying for their half of a baby, but you sure make it sound like it only goes both ways. Why shouldn't a woman ALWAYS be required to pay child support to the man if he has any custody whatsoever? Nobody like double standards except conservative republicans, traditionalists, and religious folk.
You make it sound like a man should be able to knock up a chick and just walk away.
Women are surely responsible for child support if the father keeps the child and raises it in his home.
Are we really talking about that?
Are we talking about an epidemic of women giving their children away and not paying?
If im understanding correctly, the o.p. (I am not him/her I can assure you) is wanting to know who actually files more often, who actually receives more often, and what their intent is.
The statistics that the 2nd poster provided pretty much speak for themselves. I am glad that you think women should pay if the child goes to the man. However, you cannot deny that society has inserted so many "gender roles" that men have much much more expectations put on them by society than women do.
This is 2014. America needs to get with the rest of the world and grow out of the "full time stay at home mom" mentality. People have their indifferences, but the amount of women who WANT to get knocked up just they can receive child support and wellfair is absolutely astonishing.
I take care of myyy keeeds!!!
nyc runner wrote:
Hats to be shed wrote:Not the sharpest tool in the shed, huh?
Child support is largely based upon income of the two parties and time spent caring for the child. Men generally make more money than women. Women generally spend time with their children even when they do not have custody. Men more often do not.
Do the math.
Actually, you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Child support payments, if granted, are ALWAYS based on who files for divorse. Lets say the woman files for divorse (as is usually the case), the judge understands that she is the one who has a problem with the man, not the other way around. Therefore, she is the one who is more distraught and probably wants full custody. However, look at situations like Dwayne Wade. He filed for divorse and he also got full custody of the kids.
It has absolutely nothing to do with who has more money. It has to do with who files for divorse and who has more desire to keep the child and reap benefits from the other party. Of course, I also believe that birth control is 100% a WOMANS responsibility. Guess why? Because men cant get pregnate.
Once women give birth to child, her significant other will always be a very distant priority. This has been going on for several million years.
Your very first declaration, stated so emphatically, is simply false. Using all caps will not change that.
In fact, everything in your post is false.
Child support is generally based on the two incomes and the percentage of time that each party is responsible for the child's care. Gender and who files for divorce are completely irrelevant. Go ahead and look up child support calculators. They are online for nearly any state. And they do not reference gender or who filed for divorce.
http://www.alllaw.com/articles/family/child_custody/article48.asphttps://www.cse.ca.gov/ChildSupport/cse/guidelineCalculatorPlease try to reduce your level of ignorance. Or, if you find that impossible, try to limit your ignorance to yourself instead of trying to spread it around.
nyc runner wrote:Child support payments, if granted, are ALWAYS based on who files for divorse. Lets say the woman files for divorse (as is usually the case), the judge understands that she is the one who has a problem with the man, not the other way around. Therefore, she is the one who is more distraught and probably wants full custody. However, look at situations like Dwayne Wade. He filed for divorse and he also got full custody of the kids.
It has absolutely nothing to do with who has more money. It has to do with who files for divorse and who has more desire to keep the child and reap benefits from the other party.
Not true, and it's spelled "divorce." Child support has nothing to do with who files. It is based on custody and the respective incomes of the parents.
https://www.childsupport.ny.gov/dcse/pdfs/cssa_2013.pdfIf someone has primary custody of the child, it would make sense that the other parent should make some sort of child support payments. Both parents are responsible for taking care of the child that is brought into this world.
Now don't confuse child support payments with alimony payments (spousal support). Those are 2 completely different things. Alimony is not always received and should not always be.
I never used all caps.
how often do you see full grown men walking around with a baby? I cant remember a time that ive ever seen that. of ya that rights, I saw it a few years ago in that adam sandler movie Big Daddy.
some men do indeed love their children and want custody. however, if you don't see that judges constantly anoint full custody to the mothers simply because they feel sorry for the mother and because it came out her vagina, then you are blind.
The OP mentioned revenge.
A woman may sue for child support for revenge.
I'd like clarification on that.
A woman may want revenge on a man that left her with a child to raise on her own?
I guess any lawsuit is revenge for being wronged.
nyc runner wrote:
Hats to be shed wrote:Not the sharpest tool in the shed, huh?
Child support is largely based upon income of the two parties and time spent caring for the child. Men generally make more money than women. Women generally spend time with their children even when they do not have custody. Men more often do not.
Do the math.
Actually, you are not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Child support payments, if granted, are ALWAYS based on who files for divorse. Lets say the woman files for divorse (as is usually the case), the judge understands that she is the one who has a problem with the man, not the other way around. Therefore, she is the one who is more distraught and probably wants full custody. However, look at situations like Dwayne Wade. He filed for divorse and he also got full custody of the kids.
It has absolutely nothing to do with who has more money. It has to do with who files for divorse and who has more desire to keep the child and reap benefits from the other party. Of course, I also believe that birth control is 100% a WOMANS responsibility. Guess why? Because men cant get pregnate.
Once women give birth to child, her significant other will always be a very distant priority. This has been going on for several million years.
I have recently been through this in Colorado. 1) the amount is based on a formula that takes into account the incomes, expenses and time with the kid(s). You put all that info into an Excel spreadsheet and a number comes out. 2) It does not take into account who files for divorce. 3) Custody issues are a separate decision although they play a role in the support payments.
If both parties make and spend equal amounts and had equal custody time, in theory (I never did run the numbers) then no child support might be the amount. It has everything to do with income.
* wrote:
The OP mentioned revenge.
A woman may sue for child support for revenge.
I'd like clarification on that.
A woman may want revenge on a man that left her with a child to raise on her own?
I guess any lawsuit is revenge for being wronged.
I am not sure one really "sues" for child support. In Colorado it is based on income, expenses and time spent with kid. Alimony is a different thing.
Im shocked that nobody has mentioned this yet.....
If you go to the d.h.s. to apply for food stamps, and you accidentally tell them that you have a child and the father is not around, guess what happens? The social worker is REQUIRED TO SUE THE FATHER FOR CHILD SUPPORT BECAUSE THE MOTHER IS NOT CURRENTLY DOING IT.
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