there's a difference between a meet and the NCAA meet.
there's a difference between a meet and the NCAA meet.
This has to help Oregon in recruiting right???????//
Maybe because summers in Eugene are Warm and Dry?Put down the pipe and stop talking out of your ass.
another view from the top wrote:
But no one ever wants to talk about freezing your rear off, or having to deal with heavy rains.
Here comes the lawsuits, court injunctions, appeals, trash talking, accusations, backroom deals, ... I'm going to get rich off this decision by the NCAA and buy a province back home in Armenia.
another view from the top wrote:
Yes, that is correct, good crowds. But no one ever wants to talk about freezing your rear off, or having to deal with heavy rains. The athletes and coaches do not like that, so Oregon isn't the great place that everyone thinks.
Well, I'd agree with you if cold and rain were not the exception rather than the rule.
By the time of NCAA's it is usually warm, if not Hot in Eugene.
Not Good! wrote:
Agree. There are also up and coming venues (Sac State) that could put in a bid in the next couple years. To give $hitty Eugene 7 years in a row is unfortunate.
Sac State? Are you kidding me. Sacramento: Home of strip malls, chain restaurants and suburbs, and low attendance.
The #1 priority of the NCAA is now TV.
Hey, I would love it if CAL or Stanford could host it, but that's not realistic.
CEO of a Bio Tech Company wrote:
It's always bad when there's little interest in a product your are trying to sell to the public in the United States of America.
The company blames the sales staff for not being able to sell, and the sales staff blames the company for not having a product that people want.
Which is it with our case here of NCAA Division I Track and Field?
Is it the sales staff or the product that the public doesn't want to buy?
You frame a classic, if basic problem in business.
The answer in this case is that the public is not interested in the product.
Cancellara wrote:
Assduck, oregon is clown college.
Yeah. It's so bad that you have to go to Louisiana and Mississippi to find am SEC school with lower academics than the big 0 (that's a zero, not an "o"). Maybe an apt statement about how badly the university presidents that run the NCAA have their priorities out of order.
Here's the real deal about this sudden agreement. UCLA right now has Drake Stadium as a construction zone. They're putting in the same "Mondotrack" surface as the London Olympics. This is scheduled to be done by January 17. The stadium seats 12,000 without adding seats (which they could do). Mount Sac is just starting a $50 million upgrade of the whole facility. including a stae-of-the-art track surface.
Mt. Sac is not an NCAA institution and they have not made comments about hosting NCAAs; They are interested in the Olympic Trials, which they have hosted before. But UCLA is a far more storied program than Oregon and they are fully capable of hosting the championships.
Let's just say the timing here is a little too convenient. So how much in bribes did Nike pay the NCAA THIS time? This is the same Oregon program that got caught redhanded paying bribes to recruit football players...and got away with it.
Sac State did a tremendous job hosting NCAA's as well as the trials and are in the process of returning the facility back to what it once was. Sacramento has better weather, pollen count, airport, restaurants, hotels, nightlife etc etc etc. This was a backroom bs move by NCAA.
Coach d is right on the money with this one.
$62 MEGA BUCKS so far are being spent to replace the Mt Sac stadium completely
More money is coming which will replace the north practice area and south area with more stands
Public regional planning authorities want to aggregate two dozen and more college tracks and fields in the area around Mt Sac, package and promote it as world destination for T&F Spring Training for the month of April of each year (like Las Vegas, Phoenix, and Florida is for MLB spring training).
Here comes a class action lawsuit from a host of universities nationwide against the NCAA. It's going to get ugly. Wonder who did what. There will be numerous leaks and public posturing moves. It's not good for the sport.
Kinda fishy what happened so far.
The economy surges back, then UCLA, Mt Sac, and Sacramento start spending for capital improvements.
SO why did not the NCAA hole-down D1 champs for 8 years?
Maybe Nike saw what was happening and bribed the NCAA?
Or the NCAA punted given the career paths for NCAA employees are only with football, womens basketball, and mens basketball?
Can the real press (AP, SI, NYT, WSJ, etc.) please investigate this stange turn of events on behalf on the sport of Track & Field? Please.
Not Good! wrote:
Sac State did a tremendous job hosting NCAA's as well as the trials and are in the process of returning the facility back to what it once was. Sacramento has better weather, pollen count, airport, restaurants, hotels, nightlife etc etc etc. This was a backroom bs move by NCAA.
Coach d is right on the money with this one.
I was at both of those meets and thee was low attendance, crappy strip mall restaruants, just a college wedged in a town that doesn't care about the sport.
As for Eugene/NCAA and Nike, there were no bribes and no getting of bribes.
The is nothing other than holding the events that shows them off the best all the way around.
"$62 MEGA BUCKS so far are being spent to replace the Mt Sac stadium completely"
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This is the kind of thing that Vin Lananna and Track Town, USA had envisioned and hoped for...a resurgence of interest in track and field, spawned by the investments into the sport in Oregon. I, for one, would encourage Mt Sac to start bidding on the larger meets, even the Trials, after they complete their upgrades. From other posts here, it appears that UCLA is also pondering major upgrades. Let's all us track fans hope this is the beginning of a turnaround in interest for our sport around the country. All it takes for our sport to be a player, is a bit of ingenuity, lot of rolling up the sleeves, and a willingness by sponsors to invest some money.
Bay Area deserves a shot. I'd also think Texas and Florida could bring in huge crowds. Texas Relays for one. Their HS meets are standing room only.
The meet should be at Oregon on occasion but also move around the country to allow others to have a chance to watch live. I don't see most real track fans from outside the NW region traveling across the country just for the NCAA meet every year. Yes, it's unfortunate that most sites can't sell out but it is a little unfair to keep it in a remote corner of the country annually. The reality is that Eugene can make the NCAA more gate than any other location at this time. Doesn't hurt to already have the big sugar daddy in your back pocket.
What is the attendance at any major conference meet or even the NCAA first round meets? I would guess that it's minimal outside of the athletes and coaches themselves. That should be a real indicator of public interest in the sport. Conference meets can be very exciting since they are true team efforts but most public doesn't look at track and field as a team sport anyway.
Track meets take too long. TV coverage will always suck and it's not getting any better. The event coverage is horrible and the dialogue from announcers is even worse. It's not a sport to be viewed on the tube. The only people that care about track will be in attendance. If you think the stands were empty at Drake, I'll bet few people watched it on tv nationwide and it won't matter where the meet is held in that regard. It's about the gate and that's all there is. I guess there just isn't enough football/basketball tv coverage and bowl games to keep the coffers full so they have to worry about how the sport that nobody cares about looks on the tv to nobody that is watching.
Texas is not a good site to host NCAA track and field. The weather is way too hot and the crowds are not there. The only reason Texas relays has huge crowds is because of high school track. Families of high schoolers. If you have ever seen the region meet you will see that no one is there.
Sacamento is where most coaches in the NCAA would like to see it. Weather is more predictable. Eugene is fine every 2-3 years but it is not good every year. I'm not sure there was a Nike bribe but something seems really wrong with this decision given the recent development at UCLA and Mt SAC.
Has there been any indication from UCLA or Mt. SAC that they were interested in hosting NCAAs?
Again, why is hosting the college world series in Omaha not a bad thing, but hosting track & field in Eugene is the evil work of Nike?
Like it or not, Eugene is one of the few towns that actually brings in a decent crowd for track.
I know one thing for sure the Oregon Men and Women will sweep the NCAA's at least for outdoors this year and maybe indoors as well depending on who runs indoors for Oregon this year.
good grief. wrote:
Maybe because summers in Eugene are Warm and Dry?
Put down the pipe and stop talking out of your ass.
another view from the top wrote:But no one ever wants to talk about freezing your rear off, or having to deal with heavy rains.
Didn't it rain everyday of the 2012 Olympic trials and never make it over 70?
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